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Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts) Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:22 PM Jul 2012

The way I see the individual mandate [View all]

I think the individual mandate is an example of using the taxcode for social engineering. Both political parties have done this.

Both parties support giving tax credits to taxpayers that have children. People who don't have children end up paying higher taxes.

Both parties support a tax preference for people with mortgages. People who rent end up paying higher taxes.

The Republicans even put into tax law a deduction for people who bought SUVs. People who purchased other vehicle types ended up paying higher taxes.

Using the taxcode to get people to purchase health insurance is similar to the above examples. Certain people end up paying higher taxes if they don't adhere to the desired goal of the tax legislation.

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The way I see the individual mandate [View all] Tony_FLADEM Jul 2012 OP

Minimum wage is a tax on slave owners. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #1

I hope the Affordable Care Act helps me AJTheMan Jul 2012 #2

I urge you to leave La. if you can. If not now, then when you can. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #7

Yeah I'm only 18. Just got out of high school. AJTheMan Jul 2012 #10

I see. Yes, you have to stay. La. is beautiful, but the economy sucks. You WILL get health care.... Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #16

You work, right? Your college sells ins. for its students. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #11

I appreciate it. AJTheMan Jul 2012 #12

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #3

Stay classy. joshcryer Jul 2012 #5

Exactly, now, would we say that the Republicans mandated us buying a house... joshcryer Jul 2012 #4

And yet you expect only 2% non compliance with the mandate.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #8

Tell that to the 34% of the American population who rents that the "buy a house mandate" exists? joshcryer Jul 2012 #15

As I said, 2% is an awfully low non compliance rate.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #19

I'm not even sure what your 2% non-compliance is referring to. joshcryer Jul 2012 #22

85% have insurance already. bornskeptic Jul 2012 #41

They didn't mandate we buy a house. They gave us a tax penalty for not buying one Tony_FLADEM Jul 2012 #9

Except that "tax penalty" isn't taken from your refund. joshcryer Jul 2012 #14

It does have a relevance. All else being equal renters pay higher taxes Tony_FLADEM Jul 2012 #25

They don't percieve it that way though. joshcryer Jul 2012 #26

Perhaps the renters, without all the burden of being not owners, but actually just mortgage holders Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #38

It doesn't apply to most people in the bottom 60% of the income spectrum bornskeptic Jul 2012 #42

Tony, you are correct that we enshrine social values in our tax system.... Swede Atlanta Jul 2012 #6

I plugged in some hypotheticals at www.healthcare.gov & got some plans for you. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #13

Annual Deductible: Individual: $5,000.00 Family: $10,000.00 Skittles Jul 2012 #17

That's a plan that protects against catastrophe. Not one that pays for everything. Note Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #18

PLEASE Skittles Jul 2012 #29

Under the ACA, there is no copay for preventive well exams. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #34

That's $1,080 per person. If you can find better for him, please do so. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #36

again, we are accepting what SUCKS as GOOD Skittles Jul 2012 #40

We're not all as lucky as you. You're apparently used to better. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #20

That sounds like the sort of comment often leveled at union members.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #23

repuke propaganda works on more than just repukes, Fumesucker Skittles Jul 2012 #28

Not at all. His post was making fun of others who have to do with less. You're Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #33

Yes, that was my point.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #37

LOLOL Skittles Jul 2012 #30

My COBRA premium for $700 deductible standard policy was $621.50/mo. $7,458/yr. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #35

what is wrong with you? Skittles Jul 2012 #43

If the government absolutely had to raise revenue (bogus - they did not).. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #21

People below a certain income limit are exempt from the individual mandate Tony_FLADEM Jul 2012 #24

Doesn't bother me that people with children get credits. The family income Hoyt Jul 2012 #27

I dont think your examples are similar to the mandate. xoom Jul 2012 #31

The implications are the same on a monetary basis Tony_FLADEM Jul 2012 #32

The word for the mortgage deduction is 'incentive' not mandate.... Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #39