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In reply to the discussion: For once, focus your bloodlust on Republicans --instead of the DLC/Firebaggers/ANYONE WITHOUT AN (R) [View all]chknltl
(10,558 posts)Are these same citizens not subject to the same economic pillage we at DU face?
What I believe is that there is much we share despite our ideologies being different.
Neither of these two statements are absurd.
Not so long ago we here in the DU despised Chief Justice Roberts because of Citizens United.Some advocated strongly for his impeachment. Has that changed because of our perception of what he did in regards to ACA?
The entire right has gone ballistic over ACA, many claiming he committed treason. Looks like we share something else now doesn't it? Well we do but we are too busy giving each other high fives and laughing at the right because they didn't get their way. This in no way changes the fact that Chief Justice Roberts is a massive threat to OUR democracy. My "TOLD YOU FUCKING SO... DAMN IT!" will change nothing when he fuck us over again...that is IF he hasn't just did exactly that AGAIN as Thom Hartmann fears.
Too bad the extremists on the left and extremists on the right, despite their ideological differences couldn't work together, if just for the briefest moment to push our Congress to impeach that bastard. I know, monkeys will fly out of my butt first....too bad because in theory, it might just work. I see this as a perfect example of two extremists, in the same fucking foxhole with their rifles aimed directly at each other. Justice Roberts is laughing at both sides....all the way to the bank owned by our shared enemy.
That should be enough of a bridge for you but if not please read on to understand my motives.
For some Americans, we think differently, we believe in a 'we' society, most of us who call ourselves progressive think that way.
Another group of Americans believe in a 'me' society. They call themselves conservative.
That said, there is an even bigger selection of American citizens who are in between these two ideologies.
These citizens can be pushed or pulled from one side to the other.
Deeper thinkers than I feel that those who lean towords the 'me' society get changed over to the 'we' society when that society fits in with their selfish needs. For instance, when they see their conservative ideologies draining their own wallets (as in cost them their job as they watch it go offshore). This does not mean that they have changed ideology, they are still 'me society' oriented but they switch side and vote with us because they want their job back, or because they want cheaper medical cost for a loved one or they want their home to not be taken by the bank and etc.
These same deeper thinkers predict that when enough of these 'me society' types get screwed hard enough by the exact same forces that screw you and me, there will be a swelling of our ranks. Eventually We The People will have the numbers on our side to bring about the change America needs.
My whole argument in this thread revolves around NOT pushing these potential allies away. We will never change each others ideologies but we share just enough that we can be brought together even faster OR we can only look to our differences and shove ourselves apart. Considering what is on the line: democracy in America, and considering that we on the left are being outspent by at least 8 to1 (conservative estimate of who got what in Wisconsin), we MUST grow our ranks on the left if we are to survive.
I stand by what I say when I say we are in the same foxhole together. We are the 99%, but there is woefully less than 99% of us aware that we are in that foxhole. Worse, far too many who do know it are way too eager to pitch a hand grenade in there with us. Those who are unaware, can be pushed or pulled to either side...let's coax them our way.