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Rocket_Scientist65

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67. Keep reading....

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 04:05 PM

Apr 2017

None of the swing states from the 2016 election have introduced any bills to change the EC system and the two states cited in the article have Democratic governors.....who would veto the bills. From the article...

Republicans have not introduced new electoral college reform bills in Michigan, Pennsylvania or Wisconsin this year so far. Minnesota and Virginia have Democratic governors, making those states' versions of the idea ripe for vetoes if they pass.

And your claim was that gerrymandering HAS affected presidential elections.....it never has....yet.....the fight will be to prevent bills that are being introduced in state legislatures from ever passing.

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