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treestar

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41. If that is true and not exaggeration
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:45 PM
Jul 2012

Sigh, they are in the US, and have right to counsel, speedy trial, trial by jury, and can appeal and challenge the laws. And maybe some are guilty of whatever the charge is. "Terrorism" does not sound like a real charge, but rather an editorializing of the real charges by some extremist. It would be a state charge, and surely if you know so much about it, you could cite the statute they are charged under.

Ecuador's system is a lot worse off:


e. Denial of Fair Public Trial
While the constitution provides for an independent judiciary, in practice the judiciary was susceptible to outside pressure and corruption. The media reported on the susceptibility of the judiciary to bribes for favorable decisions and faster resolution of legal cases. Judges occasionally reached decisions based on media influence or political and economic pressures.

On May 13, Minister of the Interior Jose Serrano threatened to bring criminal charges against a judge for corruption and bias. Serrano’s accusations stemmed from the judge’s ruling in favor of Cesar Carrion, who was accused of attempting to assassinate the president during the police protest of September 2010.

In some cases the outcome of trials appeared predetermined, and there were credible allegations by defendants and the press that verdicts delivered by judges were not actually written by them. In the libel suit brought by President Correa against the newspaper El Universo (see section 2.a.), the presiding judge published a 156-page decision 25 hours after the hearing. In similar cases such decisions usually take at least two weeks (and often significantly longer) to produce. The defendants alleged that the decision was not written by the presiding judge, but rather copied onto the judge’s computer from an external memory device. The defendants filed a complaint against the judge that was under investigation by the Guayas attorney general at year’s end.

Trial Procedures
Despite efforts to modernize the court system, the judiciary continued to operate slowly and inconsistently. There were lengthy delays before most cases came to trial. Judges reportedly rendered decisions more quickly or more slowly due to political pressure or, in some cases, the payment of bribes. The failures of the justice system contributed to cases in which communities took the law into their own hands, including mob violence against suspected criminals.

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"..because our country is a peaceful territory committed to justice and truth” Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #1
So true. :( IcyMint Jul 2012 #24
Some info treestar Jul 2012 #2
I guess you know that any report on human rights by the US State Dept. on other sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #4
I knew someone would do that treestar Jul 2012 #5
The US still operates through its rightwing contacts sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #6
Ecuador is not a good place to hold up as the pinnacle of human rights treestar Jul 2012 #8
Actually most Latin American countries, now struggling to overcome their sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #10
However, looking at the Amnesty report, we learn treestar Jul 2012 #11
The US is much better? girl gone mad Jul 2012 #12
Indeed. Routine torture in prisons, massive numbers imprisoned, prosecution of whistleblowers, Luminous Animal Jul 2012 #14
Nothing like described in my prior post treestar Jul 2012 #18
Protesters in the US have been arrested for going to a Bush rally wearing sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #23
Joe Wilson could have been arrested in Ecuador treestar Jul 2012 #29
You're working hard to discredit a country which under the current president sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #31
There is power to arrest people who insult the President there treestar Jul 2012 #35
Ecuador's laws re libel and slander are similar to those in the UK. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #39
Nobody has called for his death treestar Jul 2012 #40
So you admit he is correct when he claims the US is attempting to prosecute him. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #43
UN Secretary General, Ban commends Ecuador’s efforts on democracy, human rights, environment sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #15
Amnesty is Wrong? treestar Jul 2012 #19
They are not infallible. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #22
But the US government is completely fallible treestar Jul 2012 #28
You said that, not I. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #30
Huh? Have you ever admitted this country ever did anything right? treestar Jul 2012 #36
Yes, many times, all the time. What this country did right sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #37
Meant to add, and ask, who are these police? The US funded ones sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #17
The US is at fault? treestar Jul 2012 #20
No, he has the power, as does any leader of a Democratic nation, to hold accountable sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #21
The POTUS does not have any such power treestar Jul 2012 #27
Occupy fared well in the US?? Are you serious? In a coordinated sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #32
I am merely telling you what the state department and Amnesty observed treestar Jul 2012 #34
Sigh, the 'Nato Three' still in jail, accused of terrorism sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #38
If that is true and not exaggeration treestar Jul 2012 #41
No link, so I don't know where you got that. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #42
+1 nt MADem Jul 2012 #25
This is a great interview Assange did with Correa sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #3
Thanks for adding the link, sabrina. I've watched all of Assange's shows. Luminous Animal Jul 2012 #7
Interesting link. freshwest Jul 2012 #9
Feinstein renews calls for Assange to be prosecuted for espionage. Luminous Animal Jul 2012 #13
It's a disgrace, really. Elected of officials, especially democrats, sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #16
+1 KoKo Jul 2012 #33
Du rec. Nt xchrom Jul 2012 #26
DU rec and a link you will probably find interesting: inna Jul 2012 #44
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