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43. In my own experience, it was more like Libertarians were what republi-CONS called themselves
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:32 PM
Apr 2017

when they were too afraid to admit they were republi-CONS.

I found that when somebody said they were a Libertarian, that usually meant they REALLY were GOP, but just didn't want to admit it.

"independent" used to mean Turbineguy Apr 2017 #1
Not sure where you got that definition. panader0 Apr 2017 #2
In my own experience, it was more like Libertarians were what republi-CONS called themselves calimary Apr 2017 #43
most indies lean one way politically and vote like other party members JI7 Apr 2017 #3
I agree. Democrats need the Independents. panader0 Apr 2017 #5
Did you just read what i said ? they are not a block of voters that are grouped together JI7 Apr 2017 #8
That what I read too- that except for an outlier here and there they reliably vote w either party. bettyellen Apr 2017 #59
I'd say a lot of Indies have a pet issue that is at odds with their other beliefs Amishman Apr 2017 #20
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #4
It also may mean giving the a candidate and or party their vote loyalsister Apr 2017 #18
Yup. I actually think Bernie is 100% correct to identify as Independent Arazi Apr 2017 #6
i used to be independant until.... samnsara Apr 2017 #7
I have always voted Democratic. I'm 66 and have voted panader0 Apr 2017 #9
Can you split that 40% into left v right? NCTraveler Apr 2017 #10
Here's a link: panader0 Apr 2017 #13
You avoided the answer. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #19
Very smart malaise Apr 2017 #11
It seems like there's even more independents up here in New England. PatsFan87 Apr 2017 #12
I vehemently disagree... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #16
If we don't want their say then we don't have the right to complain PatsFan87 Apr 2017 #17
Sick of Bernie being used as a wedge. On DU and in real life. Sanders STILL trashes KittyWampus Apr 2017 #14
His message invited me to the Democratic party retrowire Apr 2017 #26
No Trump and the right trashes dems askyagerz Apr 2017 #53
He's head of outreach for the Democratic party, FFS. And he consistently insults Democrats KittyWampus Apr 2017 #54
Insults? Like Pocahontas or crooked hillary? askyagerz Apr 2017 #57
Bernie is no more or less "genuine" than any other politician. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #58
Maybe, maybe not askyagerz Apr 2017 #60
No, insults like "feeble" and "corrupt" and "ideologically bankrupt". NurseJackie Apr 2017 #62
As Dr phill would say askyagerz Apr 2017 #63
The Democratic party isn't corrupt. Democrats are not feeble or ideologically bankrupt. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #64
We... lost... to... Trump... askyagerz Apr 2017 #65
No that's not what he's doing. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #66
He may not out and out "trash" Democrats like Republicans do Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2017 #72
That can go both ways askyagerz Apr 2017 #80
BS insults the Democratic Party with "feeble" and "can't fight back" Cha Apr 2017 #83
That is calling a spade a spade as far as I'm concerned askyagerz Apr 2017 #85
BS is Wrong.. he's also Wrong on this.. Cha Apr 2017 #87
What Bernie isn't infallible? askyagerz Apr 2017 #88
It's maddening, isn't it? We deserve better. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #61
I wish Al Giordano would primary him. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #71
I only have one problem with that, really... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #15
All of the "Independents" I know reliably vote Republican Orrex Apr 2017 #21
That's my experience too. n/t FSogol Apr 2017 #34
I agree and disagree. Xolodno Apr 2017 #22
Republicans russian hackers targeted lists of Ds and D donors. I don't think party should be listed. Sunlei Apr 2017 #23
NOOO retrowire Apr 2017 #24
Exactly! My hubs has voted Democratic all his life... Duppers Apr 2017 #36
I'm really confused about what it means Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2017 #25
Why don't they join? Maybe because they prefer to be independent of partisan politics? KPN Apr 2017 #35
Yeah Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2017 #42
You're right, the doors are always open. KPN Apr 2017 #82
I'm very close to going back to being Independent (Unaffiliated) bekkilyn Apr 2017 #27
yep lies Apr 2017 #29
Who cares? Do what you want. It's not a big deal as long as you vote for the Dem. n/t seaglass Apr 2017 #51
AMEN! KPN Apr 2017 #28
Many of them are swing voters WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #30
If the independents support the party platform, come on board. LanternWaste Apr 2017 #31
As the most prominant Independent in the nation, panader0 Apr 2017 #32
What makes anyone think Democratic party is NOT open to Independents? Justice Apr 2017 #33
He's implying our door wasn't open before, which is bullshit Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #37
Party ID doesn't equal turnout or predict voting habits. rogue emissary Apr 2017 #38
those are pesky facts. JHan Apr 2017 #49
Yes, it would be interesting to see how many times he has voted for a Republican. I seaglass Apr 2017 #50
and maybe the independents should reach out as well. BS, why did you not life a finger for Ossoff? niyad Apr 2017 #39
Arguably, Bernie is the most influential independent in US politics. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #40
LOLZ. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #55
Some of us laugh. Some of us cry. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #56
A very important post for Democrats kentuck Apr 2017 #41
I'm guessing white men make up the bulk of that 40%. nt LexVegas Apr 2017 #44
of course Skittles Apr 2017 #84
Um, they already have. lark Apr 2017 #45
The Democratic Party has ALWAYS been open to Independents and republicans. George II Apr 2017 #46
We just allow the most prominent one to run as the head of our ticket.... SaschaHM Apr 2017 #47
Obviously not here on DU. panader0 Apr 2017 #67
DU isn't the Democratic Party. George II Apr 2017 #68
Are you Canadian? panader0 Apr 2017 #70
I am registered unenrolled and have never voted for a non-Democrat. The majority of voters seaglass Apr 2017 #48
Lots of these "independents" are racists who voted for Trump for that reason. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #52
Bernie was suggesting open primaries standingtall Apr 2017 #69
The idea of "open primaries" is dumb. It's dilluting the party for the sake of the the lazy... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #73
So that Republicans can vote for the most conservative or weakest nominee? pnwmom Apr 2017 #75
But 40% aren't Bernie-style progressive independents. pnwmom Apr 2017 #74
Agreed. But this pool of voters needs to be tapped. panader0 Apr 2017 #76
I would feel better about Bernie if he didn't keep disparaging Democrats. pnwmom Apr 2017 #79
being independent is NOT the same as belonging to an Independent Party Fresh_Start Apr 2017 #77
The party is open to everyone BainsBane Apr 2017 #78
Most independents think they are superior or are apolitical MichMan Apr 2017 #81
Bernie is smart madokie Apr 2017 #86
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