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JTFrog

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49. Bernie isn't helping.

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 03:34 PM

Apr 2017

The things he thinks are helpful I can't understand. Calling to primary a sitting Democratic President, claiming our Democratic nominee was not qualified to be President, calling the party corrupt and the primaries rigged. About as far as you can get from valid or constructive criticism.

Democratic party "corruption" has kept Bernie Sanders in Washington for the last twenty five years. He whines about "rigged" Democratic party processes, about insiders, about the party keeping the little guy out of power. Bernie Sanders is actually fine with all of that. As long as it benefits him. Take a look at his electoral history sometime. Did he go off about corruption when the Dems turned their back on Dolores Sandoval for him? How about all the other times he has benefited?

Trashing the party after being given a leadership role because this was somehow gonna unite the Democratic Party seems to be more damaging than ever. If these are his ideas, he needs better ones. Perhaps he can look to other Democrats who have been working hard for the party for years.

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For those DUers that want to criticize Bernie and others for not helping Ossoff,... [View all] StubbornThings Apr 2017 OP

Bernie has never had a problem endorsing in primaries before. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #1

this is a special election, not a primary. niyad Apr 2017 #6

true but it was fairly clear from polling that Ossoff had consolidated almost all party support. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #9

so very true niyad Apr 2017 #10

True but he is working with the DNC right now. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #7

I doubt that considering Ossoff had clearly consolidated support in the party. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #11

What about the leaders of the party? StubbornThings Apr 2017 #18

There is always room for criticism of party leadership, but... hrmjustin Apr 2017 #35

"Critism of party leadership" StubbornThings Apr 2017 #36

People criticize the party leadership here all the time. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #39

Hillary supporters? StubbornThings Apr 2017 #46

With respect you can look for those examples on your own. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #47

People routinely lies Apr 2017 #51

Is he? Sounds like he is working on his legacy or his #OurRevolution group Historic NY Apr 2017 #44

haters gonna hate ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #42

I don't hate Sanders. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #43

DUers are not criticizing others. Only Bernie. panader0 Apr 2017 #2

I hear ya. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #3

You didn't hear? He's the reason why the Titanic sunk as well. What iceberg? PatsFan87 Apr 2017 #5

Bernie created a class of voters who demand the candidate be perfect or they will Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #20

How did he do that? Really? panader0 Apr 2017 #26

Slip is showing. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #27

How cryptic. How about a real answer? panader0 Apr 2017 #30

That is my answer. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #33

Bernie ran as a Democrat. When he ceded the nomination to Hillary panader0 Apr 2017 #37

Bernie isn't helping. JTFrog Apr 2017 #49

Yup. nt babylonsister Apr 2017 #45

This didn't help SticksnStones Apr 2017 #48

I think that was the more helpful response creeksneakers2 Apr 2017 #52

Depends on who you're trying to get to the polls SticksnStones Apr 2017 #53

That is rich if that is the case.... boston bean Apr 2017 #4

I think Bernie would have made a difference with some Trump leaners randr Apr 2017 #8

Here is my position. Ossoff received 48% of the vote in as red as it gets district. That very still_one Apr 2017 #12

I don't disagree at all. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #14

There were 4 other Ds in the race Cattledog Apr 2017 #13

What's your point? nt StubbornThings Apr 2017 #15

The point is they didn't have a chance and that was obvious a month ago. pnwmom Apr 2017 #19

It's Amazing How Some Expected Bernie To Get Involved.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #16

Only Bernie, huh? What about the leaders of the party that Bernie doesn't belong to? StubbornThings Apr 2017 #21

Well, no because.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #29

Nonsense Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #23

Because.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #32

Nov 2016 it worked for the GOP, these efforts are working for them still Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #34

....... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #38

He could have been campaigning for Hillary starting in May (against the united GOP) pnwmom Apr 2017 #24

Maybe the fault should lie with all the other D's in the race? mwooldri Apr 2017 #54

Fair Point... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #55

Allegations and suppositions are indeed, stubborn things. LanternWaste Apr 2017 #17

But UT_democrat Apr 2017 #22

Yeah, that's what it is. Voting and working for the party for decades Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #25

Then we agree UT_democrat Apr 2017 #28

Nonsense Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #31

I think Bernie did more than he was given credit for Samantha Apr 2017 #40

Very informative post. Thank you. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #56

interesting WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #41

That explanation is really so very weak that it is sad Gothmog Apr 2017 #50

Okay Nina. tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #57

maybe maybe maybe Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2017 #58