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Ms. Toad

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19. It is not a matter of capability - it is a matter of public policy.

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:54 PM

Apr 2017

A physical receipt that you can carry away with you is prohibited, because of the possibilty of vote selling (it provides proof to the buyer that you voted as you were paid to do). It isn't a matter of capability, it is a matter of public policy.

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100% Unverifiable Diebold Touchscreens Save the Day for GOP in GA06! [View all] Amaryllis Apr 2017 OP

'Are the reported results accurate? It is impossible, in fact, to know, elleng Apr 2017 #1

I wondered about it last night when he dropped down below 50. We should not have to question Amaryllis Apr 2017 #2

but we have for years. elleng Apr 2017 #3

I wish we could get the Dem leadership to take it seriously. It is so frustrating to hear Amaryllis Apr 2017 #9

and they had YEARS to address it, in congress. elleng Apr 2017 #14

Agree 100% zentrum Apr 2017 #17

agreed; there is no issue more critical than election security, and dems act like they couldn't care TheFrenchRazor Apr 2017 #37

It can't be a "glitch" or "error" when the bias favors GOP in majority of cases diva77 Apr 2017 #21

Right. elleng Apr 2017 #24

Why Do We Put Up With These Awful Voting Machines? dlk Apr 2017 #4

Diebold makes ATMs volstork Apr 2017 #15

It is not a matter of capability - it is a matter of public policy. Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #19

But those receipts could be put into a ballot box Bettie Apr 2017 #43

That's not a manufacturing matter. It is a public policy matter. Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #47

There are many alternatives to hackable voting machines. In Oregon and WA, we have paper Amaryllis Apr 2017 #46

Unless they are hand counted, they are susceptible to error Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #48

The fact of the matter is our voting methods are not secure in the U.S. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #5

Truthout: THe shocking truth about election rigging in America. Link here: Amaryllis Apr 2017 #6

No voting machine remedy after the 2002 Cleland vs. Chambliss oasis Apr 2017 #7

Ohio 2004 with the help of Ohio SOS Ken Blackwell. Amaryllis Apr 2017 #12

Yup, Ken Blackwell was instrumental in handing Bush Ohio in 2004 oasis Apr 2017 #27

2002 was a test run I believe in many states JCMach1 Apr 2017 #22

If I recall correctly, the state of Georgia bought 23,000 Diebold oasis Apr 2017 #28

yep; gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "faith-based voters." nt TheFrenchRazor Apr 2017 #34

I was running for the Legislature in Florida... JCMach1 Apr 2017 #44

Instead of getting to work on obvious voting machine manipulation, oasis Apr 2017 #45

Unverifiable because they were designed that way.. Permanut Apr 2017 #8

You got that right. Amaryllis Apr 2017 #10

Universal Vote By Mail/Paper Ballots. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #11

Unfortunately this creates a breach in the chain of custody between your ballot & ballot box diva77 Apr 2017 #23

correct; we need all paper ballots, all hand-counted. it was done for centuries before computers. nt TheFrenchRazor Apr 2017 #29

I don't think they need to be hand-counted as long as there's a paper trail. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #40

paper receipts will never see the light of day 99.9999% of the time, so they are useless; the ballot TheFrenchRazor Apr 2017 #49

I hear what you're saying. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #50

It works just fine here in Oregon. And the US Postal Service is already protected by Federal law. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #39

It's a national security threat Worktodo Apr 2017 #13

Hostile actors like maybe Russia, for example? Who are experts at hacking? Amaryllis Apr 2017 #16

exactly, they have motive, means, and opportunity. we're just supposed to "trust" that the ruskies, TheFrenchRazor Apr 2017 #31

Yes and much more Worktodo Apr 2017 #42

This sort of news pisses me off to no end ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #18

Electoral Assistance Commission OldRedneck Apr 2017 #20

nothing to see here folks, move along... nt TheFrenchRazor Apr 2017 #32

More conspiracy nonsense mythology Apr 2017 #25

For starters, have a look-see at http://electiondefensealliance.org/ diva77 Apr 2017 #26

ha ha, you're funny. nt TheFrenchRazor Apr 2017 #33

regarding voter fraud - fabricated by gop, read this article diva77 Apr 2017 #36

Some Statistical Analysis Would Be Helpful DallasNE Apr 2017 #30

The red county voted red and reported last. Good time for a tin foil party. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #35

Remember the arson fire that burned Houston's votnig machines? Liberty Belle Apr 2017 #38

Die old machines Dink123 Apr 2017 #41

"Hours later, after the computer tabulator problem was said to have been corrected..." CrispyQ Apr 2017 #51