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177. Welcome to DU, Expecting Rain!

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 12:35 AM

Apr 2017

Earlier I felt that the optics were beneficial. Tom Perez and Bernie Sanders together, and what that visually symbolized. But the more I think about this, you may just have made a very credible point.

I still do have a problem with that, as a lifelong loyal Democrat. Gotta say it. I have a BIG problem with that. And his continuing to tear the Democratic Party down does NOTHING to bring us all together to fight as a united front. I don't know why he insists on being so divisive. What does that do, really? In practicality? Except maybe to alienate a voter like me, who HAD previously viewed him positively. I thought he was divisive then, and I think he's STILL divisive now.

My mother did that. Just nonstop fault-finding. Nonstop criticism. NEVER satisfied with me, or what I did or I was NEVER good enough. NEVER thin enough. NEVER neat and tidy enough. NEVER well-enough dressed. It didn't endear me to her or make me more open to what she said. Just hurt me and alienated me and made me want to get away from her.

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With "friends" ***ahem:Bernie*** like these, who needs enemies? (tweet and link) [View all] tallahasseedem Apr 2017 OP

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #1

Yep. tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #2

I'll add the YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Skittles Apr 2017 #7

+1 tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #8

Seconded. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #33

Amen! DesertRat Apr 2017 #90

I'll add a VERY MUCH! calimary Apr 2017 #105

Thing is, WHY does he know nothing about this man who's been Hortensis Apr 2017 #109

And meanwhile, he WILL be campaigning for anti-abortion Dem Heath Mello. pnwmom Apr 2017 #124

Wanna bet Mello ardently sought Sanders support Hortensis Apr 2017 #146

I'm with you. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #178

It does not surprise me either Gothmog Apr 2017 #140

He doesn't do his homework, does he? Narrow curriculum which we all know by heart.... bettyellen Apr 2017 #3

Nope. tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #4

It's one thing to say you'll vote along w others... quite another to be a vocal bettyellen Apr 2017 #5

Well, that doesn't sound "flexible" does it? ehrnst Apr 2017 #35

Unless he is about an all together different program that Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #56

I've often wondered that very thing. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #63

Maybe not all about, but the fact that he was Hortensis Apr 2017 #117

What "rising Democrat"? NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #97

I meant our new Georgia guy... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #123

Sorry! NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #192

What he is preaching doesn't make sense, imho. boston bean Apr 2017 #10

He LOVES the attention... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #11

Get. Out. ehrnst Apr 2017 #73

Being "different" gains that attention. brush Apr 2017 #148

It's a reflection on his values and priorities... bettyellen Apr 2017 #17

I understand and they are at odds with some of my democratic values. boston bean Apr 2017 #84

SHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! ehrnst Apr 2017 #38

He knows his base. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2017 #43

I so agree with Boston Bean on this Gothmog Apr 2017 #141

Dems partnering with Bernie is a wash brush Apr 2017 #149

Geez. That is not helpful. skylucy Apr 2017 #6

I have to say, all this controversy roiling around Sanders, and I really don't see any good things Squinch Apr 2017 #9

And has never written an in depth tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #13

I don't see any evidence that he has ever gotten past proposing great sounding legislation that has Squinch Apr 2017 #16

But wait! He tacks on amendments to legislation ehrnst Apr 2017 #101

That's his total Modus Operandi.... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #156

The roadshow should end. Expecting Rain Apr 2017 #12

Agreed... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #15

So so much more to this than that. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #59

But the crowds... those crowds.... ehrnst Apr 2017 #102

And the birds! tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #157

But it had SO much MEANING. ehrnst Apr 2017 #180

Welcome to DU, Expecting Rain! calimary Apr 2017 #177

Jesus ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #14

So selective purity tests for those he likes? JHan Apr 2017 #18

I guess Planned Parenthood and NARAL ehrnst Apr 2017 #25

... mcar Apr 2017 #31

Mello is not someone I would throw my weight behind. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #34

Pragmatism is fine when he deems it so JHan Apr 2017 #53

But he knows best, doesn't he? ehrnst Apr 2017 #71

Disturbing. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #72

I've no problem with pragmatism, I just hate hypocrisy over it. JHan Apr 2017 #74

Yes... sheshe2 Apr 2017 #85

And please dont use that term, that is THEIR term, they are anything but "pro-life" Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #61

Yes.. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #83

Any politician that directly contradicts the medical profession on ehrnst Apr 2017 #104

To hell with that! sheshe2 Apr 2017 #108

"American Crime" a tv series is highlighting the issue of abortion in North Carolina and Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #193

It's sheshe2 Apr 2017 #196

Right! Doesn't seem he would pass the progressive purity test yet he get's Sanders' backing. brush Apr 2017 #152

Because BS has dismissed abortion rights as a "social issue" ehrnst Apr 2017 #185

Holy crap... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #136

HRC and Planned Parenthood endorsed Hillary Clinton Gothmog Apr 2017 #143

In a presidential primary, you choose only one candidate to endorse ehrnst Apr 2017 #184

and? I'm not prepared to back just any democrat with a D either, and according to these boards, JCanete Apr 2017 #19

Heath Mello's stance on abortion didn't stop him giving an enthusiastic endorsement. JHan Apr 2017 #21

Pro-choice Dems just need to be "more flexible" on that. ehrnst Apr 2017 #26

I clarified that his definition for knowing the candidate might focus on certain politics. Even if JCanete Apr 2017 #40

He is head of democratic outreach JHan Apr 2017 #49

like I said, I don't excuse Mello's vote, and I don't support supporting candidates who are still JCanete Apr 2017 #62

If he wants to be selective in his support,, JHan Apr 2017 #70

Well I guess that depends on the job he's doing heading outreach, which in my opinion, should JCanete Apr 2017 #179

He is in charge of Democratic OUTREACH. If he doesn't know who Ossoff is, he must live at the bottom KittyWampus Apr 2017 #57

Yeah, it's supposed to be, but here at DU it appears Ossoff is ... KPN Apr 2017 #107

Since he can't back up his "economic front" with actual theories, facts, figures, tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #161

Sure, its called demand-side economics. Pretty simple. KPN Apr 2017 #191

He has none...well maybe if the person kisses his ring and begs for attention. tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #160

Wow. Ossoff must've taken money from billionaires. or something. yodermon Apr 2017 #20

Hope's a thing with feathers ehrnst Apr 2017 #32

I don't think Bernie would be a asset in Georgia, just as well he comradebillyboy Apr 2017 #54

Bullshit. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #65

What? You don't think Ossoff can beat Karen Handel? comradebillyboy Apr 2017 #94

You're right... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #158

The expressed attitude about being a "progressive" is rather unhelpful, IMHO renegade000 Apr 2017 #22

beautifully stated. ++++ JHan Apr 2017 #27

Good luck with that.... (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #28

If "helpful" doesn't advance one's personal political goals ehrnst Apr 2017 #44

To be fair to Sanders, the WSJ reporter set him up with the question... renegade000 Apr 2017 #55

He's been a politician for 40 years. He should know how to steer an interview by now. Squinch Apr 2017 #125

Are you seriously using the "Gotcha Question" defense? tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #163

The definition seems to have morphed into the thumbs up or down of one person ehrnst Apr 2017 #181

There will be NO DISSENT!!!!! ehrnst Apr 2017 #23

Not surprised by this Txbluedog Apr 2017 #24

A purity test in this conservative district? mcar Apr 2017 #29

wow uponit7771 Apr 2017 #30

This is not good news at all. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #36

Sanders has to be careful here. Had he said "Yes he is a progressive" then the right would have Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #37

Apparently what Vermont is concerned with ehrnst Apr 2017 #46

Your post containing the ad should be its own thread for better exposure. Donkees Apr 2017 #68

Your welcome to post it. Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #81

Sanders could have said, "This is the guy you should vote for in this election." But no. He has Squinch Apr 2017 #120

I'm going back to mostly ignoring the guy. wildeyed Apr 2017 #39

Good advice JHan Apr 2017 #58

I should've read your post before posting my own. But I agree. It would hurt more than help. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2017 #82

Another NCer would understand. wildeyed Apr 2017 #162

The conservative WSJ was hoping Bernie would have said he was Progressive Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #88

Ah, that makes sense. wildeyed Apr 2017 #159

I'm just wondering why no one thought to lobby Bernie through petition? Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #41

If it doesn't worry Vermont, why would the Vermont Senator pay attention ehrnst Apr 2017 #48

How much time does it take to endorse someone? Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #51

But there are so many in the Democratic party that need to be schooled ehrnst Apr 2017 #69

I don't see where he would have anything to gain if the Georgia Dem is progressive. Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #75

It depends on who decides what is "progressive" and what is ehrnst Apr 2017 #77

He Is As He's Always Been Me. Apr 2017 #42

People who don't live in his home state, ehrnst Apr 2017 #52

True Me. Apr 2017 #64

I'm not one bit surprised. Little Star Apr 2017 #45

He's Not The Enemy ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #47

The "masses"? ehrnst Apr 2017 #60

He's not a friend either, with this kind of ridiculousness. Squinch Apr 2017 #127

Anyone who feels women's rights are negotiable tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #168

He is lost to me, will never get my support liberal N proud Apr 2017 #50

This rejection of Sanders is not very promising for progressive unity. yallerdawg Apr 2017 #66

Single payer failed in Vermont ehrnst Apr 2017 #89

OK. Vermont isn't "the land of milk and honey." yallerdawg Apr 2017 #91

No, Vermont minimum wage is $10 an hour. ehrnst Apr 2017 #98

The negativity toward this warrior is appalling to me... Heartstrings Apr 2017 #128

The "negativity" BS shows towards the Democratic Party is Cha Apr 2017 #134

I think your computer autocorrected to warrior instead of weasel. tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #166

Don't move just yet... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #167

Here's a reason for why Bernie laid low on Ossoff flamingdem Apr 2017 #67

Of course. This is fricking Georgia for Christ sake. Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #76

Wow! Now the biggest cities in the USA are suspect flamingdem Apr 2017 #96

And look at all the Bernie bashers go!!! retrowire Apr 2017 #99

Oh, not at all. alarimer Apr 2017 #188

Well said retrowire Apr 2017 #189

Such a bellowing narcissist. swag Apr 2017 #78

Not helpful, Bernie. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #79

In this district, Osoff may be better off without his help. BS didn't do well in the South. n/t Tarheel_Dem Apr 2017 #80

That's true. Hell who knows, maybe it was political brilliance on his part JHan Apr 2017 #86

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2017 #112

+1 flamingdem Apr 2017 #137

This is just continuing to stir the crap... Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #87

I think holding people to their own standards isn't "picking wounds." (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #92

Then where is the call out to all the other liberal leaders?? Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #93

Not following you. ehrnst Apr 2017 #100

The whole point of the article is a slam on Bernie because he didn't go to GA... Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #116

No - the point is that Bernie has deemed himself to be the arbiter of what is "progressive" ehrnst Apr 2017 #182

Exactly! But good luck with that.... KPN Apr 2017 #113

No, he did MORE than not support Ossoff. He questioned Ossoff's progressive bona fides, pnwmom Apr 2017 #126

No one is asking Bernie to go and campaign for the dude GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #150

He's the one saying this...this isn't a rumor. tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #169

Wow. How disappointing. Sad. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #95

"Ask Hillary, she can tell you." Truer words never spoken. grossproffit Apr 2017 #103

I agree with Bernie, What on Ossoff's campagn page indicates he is liberal or progressive? PoliticalPie Apr 2017 #106

No I don't ...we would be way better off if we voted for the candidate with the 'D' Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #119

It's hard to tell Plucketeer Apr 2017 #110

Goodness gracious .... LenaBaby61 Apr 2017 #111

Just be glad he stayed out of it marlakay Apr 2017 #114

Vote Democratic! Cary Apr 2017 #115

Tell me what possible good spewing forth all this hatred does BigBearJohn Apr 2017 #118

No hatred here... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #164

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Yes, I DO know -- he is definitely a progressive. But Bernie was dismissive and implying pnwmom Apr 2017 #129

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That smell...it's like PINE! tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #170

JACK...is that you? VOX Apr 2017 #186

Certainly seems like it, no? tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #190

Indeed...it's downright RADICAL! VOX Apr 2017 #195

Purity tests on the left lead to the right being in power. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #131

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Being a veteran DUer and all... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #171

wow.. No Shite.. with "friends like these".. Cha Apr 2017 #133

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Cool you have actually met him GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #154

Sanders needs to support Democratic candidates Gothmog Apr 2017 #139

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The only explanation that makes sense on Sanders e-mail list is that he is preserving right to run Gothmog Apr 2017 #144

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Damn, 14 posts and three weeks in... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #172

The rules need to be changed - at this point Bernie shouldn't be under the "Democratic" umbrella. forjusticethunders Apr 2017 #200

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Integrity. Its why some people like Bernie so much. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #151

Integrity? Where are Mr. Integrity tax returns? Did you honestly believe that "Jane couldn't lunamagica Apr 2017 #176

+1 she said they would release them JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #199

Bernie Sanders & Tom Perez chairman of the DNC set to stump for Mello (D) at Baxter Arena Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #153

Weasel Words dlk Apr 2017 #155

Careful now. SaschaHM Apr 2017 #165

Man, after being a member for 13 years and paying dues for each one... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #174

When it was Obama V Hillary KentuckyWoman Apr 2017 #173

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Jon Ossoff on the issues, presented in a way Bernie Sanders can understand ehrnst Apr 2017 #183

Thread full of the same people jumping up to throw shit at Bernie. Kentonio Apr 2017 #187

After he threw shit at a Democratic candidate who could have used his help. Yep. Same old same old. Squinch Apr 2017 #194

Yup nt riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #197

Uh huh... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #198

So Sanders only support Democrats who meet his definition of 'progressive" delisen Apr 2017 #201

Nope... Especially sense supporting pro choice is ok now... He can't pass his own purity test uponit7771 Apr 2017 #203

I'm glad he's showing eeryone what he's really about. lapucelle Apr 2017 #202

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