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HughBeaumont

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103. Politifact has a problem with his wording moreso than the reality.

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 08:25 AM

Apr 2017

Asserting that "America and it's capitalist economic system is just fine" because Bernie said "twice as much" when the reality is "1 1/2 times as much"? Is that what we're going for here? Defending a war profiteer, tax dodger and polluter like Exxon Mobil because Bernie forgot about state and local taxes? That's like saying "Lay off that multi-millionaire - he pays 8% more taxes than you do!"

I can counter with just as many "Trues" and "Mostly Trues" regarding the economy and social issues.

Don't like the guy all you want. Doesn't matter to me. America has a glaring wealth distribution problem, medical bankruptcies continue to plague a nation that still doesn't regard health as a human right, women still get unequal pay, NO party is addressing capitalism's serious flaws and lack of a future for Millennials, Gen X and Retirees . . . . that isn't changing because of nit-picking. We need to do a better job of messaging.

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FactCheck.org: Sanders Wrong on Voter Turnout [View all] Cha Apr 2017 OP

Now all you need to do is connect this to Susan Sarandon. Gravitycollapse Apr 2017 #1

BS is wrong on Voter Turnout for 2016 Cha Apr 2017 #2

I know that. But what role did Susan Sarandon have in this? Gravitycollapse Apr 2017 #4

Fuck susan sarandon. boston bean Apr 2017 #6

Yeah, sarandon can Fuck Off and take the asshole Cha Apr 2017 #48

Stein did her best to help elect Trump Gothmog Apr 2017 #140

stein Lies got her fans brainwashed into Cha Apr 2017 #150

FactCheck.org: Sanders Wrong on Voter Turnout Cha Apr 2017 #9

I'm thinking Sarandon wore a full-body Sanders suit Scooby Doo style. Gravitycollapse Apr 2017 #12

BS needs to start checking his FACTS before he puts Cha Apr 2017 #17

Sanders is entitled to his own opinion but Sanders is not entitled to his own facts Gothmog Apr 2017 #141

What does that even mean?? boston bean Apr 2017 #22

Games. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #35

It's their way of deflecting the reality of BS Cha Apr 2017 #69

What's with the obsession with Sarandon? NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #116

They both say crazy shit? fleabiscuit Apr 2017 #23

You keep bringing it up Cary Apr 2017 #92

Why are you the only one that calls him BS? nt StubbornThings Apr 2017 #86

Talk to BS about his initials. Cha Apr 2017 #91

Love THat Me. Apr 2017 #101

He's been referred to by his initials by many around here and elsewhere. George II Apr 2017 #108

BS is wrong about a lot of things, truth be known. nikibatts Apr 2017 #124

! QC Apr 2017 #5

Anything to deflect from the FACT that BS Got the 2016 Cha Apr 2017 #10

But only because Susan Sarandon told him to! n/t QC Apr 2017 #11

Yeah, she's a liar Cha Apr 2017 #16

Oh, you don't have to worry about that, most of what Sarandon says about politics is wrong. betsuni Apr 2017 #8

Bernie is far more influential that the has-been movie star. When he gets it wrong, it matters. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #13

Is she the new consort in this new mythology or merely the high priestess? synergie Apr 2017 #49

. JudyM Apr 2017 #148

Mahalo for Kicking the thread so more can see how Wrong Cha Apr 2017 #149

Yes he was! sheshe2 Apr 2017 #3

You're Welcome, she.. Cha Apr 2017 #15

No, he is not helping anyone. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #19

Exactly! Why is all this insulting of the Democratic Cha Apr 2017 #24

I asked Skinner about that tonight. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #25

Thank you.. Cha Apr 2017 #27

You are welcome. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #29

.. Cha Apr 2017 #30

It was a self serving lie leftynyc Apr 2017 #68

Thank you NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #118

More people may have turned out but that doesn't mean they would have voted for him. George II Apr 2017 #146

Yes. ucrdem Apr 2017 #7

ucrdem! sheshe2 Apr 2017 #21

Heya sheshe!! ucrdem Apr 2017 #50

Lots of hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Apr 2017 #55

Right, ucrdem.. that's why I posted this as an OP Cha Apr 2017 #26

Great catch Cha! ucrdem Apr 2017 #53

yeah, he needs to use FACTCHECK.. like we Cha Apr 2017 #60

Yes. And I got tired of it a long time ago. Hortensis Apr 2017 #71

And that high turnout was in the face of voter suppression affecting millions of votes. pnwmom Apr 2017 #14

Correct. Good point. boston bean Apr 2017 #18

Excellent reminder, pnwmom! Cha Apr 2017 #63

Fake news to fit his limited narrative. R B Garr Apr 2017 #20

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #28

Please define sheshe2 Apr 2017 #32

Mahalo, she.. seems Miss-Mass blew Cha Apr 2017 #39

Sad sheshe2 Apr 2017 #43

Pathetic! Cha Apr 2017 #47

That too sheshe2 Apr 2017 #56

"Constructive criticism"? Bull. You do NOT know what you're talking Cha Apr 2017 #34

Love how you make the trolls nuts, Cha! Especially when it gets them zapped! SunSeeker Apr 2017 #40

LOL.. I Cha Apr 2017 #51

Sure, you can have anything I post! SunSeeker Apr 2017 #54

I just saw Cha Apr 2017 #58

CNN: Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016 Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #31

BS needs to make this right then.. if he's going to be Cha Apr 2017 #33

And if he gets busy with his job and 100 other more important things tomorrow and forgets Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #42

Oh right.. why should we expect him to correct this.. Cha Apr 2017 #46

Nope, that whole messianic thing is going a bit overboard, but yes we should call out synergie Apr 2017 #57

Why shouldn't he be held accountable? "Feet held to the fire" and all that. betsuni Apr 2017 #64

Exactly betsuni.. BS needs to make sure Cha Apr 2017 #67

The last paragraph explains what FactCheck was R B Garr Apr 2017 #37

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #52

The article says that the turnout figures will change onenote Apr 2017 #97

He didn't say "according to CNN". It was HIS comment and he owns it. George II Apr 2017 #110

That's old news Bradical79 Apr 2017 #111

FactCheck.org is our friend NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #119

The excuse is corporate media? BainsBane Apr 2017 #136

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #36

Yep. Not the first time. nt SunSeeker Apr 2017 #38

And won't be the last time either. nt William769 Apr 2017 #41

Night owl! sheshe2 Apr 2017 #44

I can't sleep. William769 Apr 2017 #45

Neither can I. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #59

Me neither. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #61

We are a Triumvirate. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #62

i heard that from a lot of sources... lame54 Apr 2017 #65

Good to know.. Mahalo, Cha Apr 2017 #66

Maybe he meant "neglected white dude" voter turnout? nt LexVegas Apr 2017 #70

When I saw all the silly deflecting going on... I knew this was a true story. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #72

Yeah, it's so funny.. evidently Cha Apr 2017 #74

So what? Why is this post worthy? Vinca Apr 2017 #73

Why the hell are you questioning what is "post worthy"? Cha Apr 2017 #75

Why? Because you and others are alienating people from voting for Democrats. Vinca Apr 2017 #76

Because you're not the gd boss. Cha Apr 2017 #77

I'm not going to fight with you even though that's what you appear to want. Vinca Apr 2017 #78

Unify?!? JTFrog Apr 2017 #112

I know. I love it when Bernie fans try to call out other people for not being "unifying" stevenleser Apr 2017 #114

Agree! justhanginon Apr 2017 #130

Whoa.. good post, JTFrog.. Cha Apr 2017 #131

Fact-checking is not "bashing." Why should anyone be given a free-pass if they make a mistake... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #81

Yes it's so terrible on a political discussion forum to discuss political factchecking stevenleser Apr 2017 #94

... betsuni Apr 2017 #99

Why do you think that Sanders is keeping his e-mail list to himself? Gothmog Apr 2017 #142

Once again our brightest star treated like crap dembotoz Apr 2017 #79

Tell your "brightest star" to get his facts right.. Cha Apr 2017 #80

The OP is actually HELPING him to be more accurate in the future. Why would anyone oppose that? NurseJackie Apr 2017 #82

The OP refers to Bernie Sanders as BS. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #85

1) I'm not seeing his initials anywhere in the OP. 2) Those are his initials, who cares? NurseJackie Apr 2017 #93

My "agenda" is to bring FactCheck.org to DU that states.. Cha Apr 2017 #98

.. Cha Apr 2017 #87

Naʻu ka hauʻoli NurseJackie Apr 2017 #117

I stole your heart.. Cha Apr 2017 #120

Yes you did. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #126

Lol Cha Apr 2017 #127

now that is funny dembotoz Apr 2017 #144

:-D NurseJackie Apr 2017 #145

Sanders is entitled to his own opinion but Sanders is not entitled to his own facts Gothmog Apr 2017 #143

Sander was so very wrong on his clam here Gothmog Apr 2017 #83

Sanders plays fast and loose with the facts all the time stevenleser Apr 2017 #84

K&R for truth! mcar Apr 2017 #88

Mahalo, mcar! Cha Apr 2017 #115

Some folks are mad at you because this potentially disrupts the Sanders sanctimony they want stevenleser Apr 2017 #89

Wrong about voter turnout. HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #90

And often wrong about the facts and figures he uses to justify those things too. stevenleser Apr 2017 #95

Thank you for that, Steven Cha Apr 2017 #96

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #102

That's because politifact hadsnt been following Bernie for long stevenleser Apr 2017 #104

Hey shawn.. this isn't about the damn Primary.. This is Here and NOW.. Cha Apr 2017 #107

Politifact has a problem with his wording moreso than the reality. HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #103

Thank you. klook Apr 2017 #109

I don't know what to say. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #105

I just wish you all had as much animosity for Trump panader0 Apr 2017 #100

... betsuni Apr 2017 #106

It makes a lot of us wonder. QC Apr 2017 #113

We do. treestar Apr 2017 #121

Utterly ridiculous. lol panader0 Apr 2017 #122

not more so than the claim Bernie was cheated treestar Apr 2017 #123

+1000 R B Garr Apr 2017 #133

What animosity? The OP is correcting the record with factual information. Why ... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #125

It's not the only thing BS is wrong about. lapucelle Apr 2017 #128

I know.. and that Mello guy in Nebraska.. Cha Apr 2017 #129

Bernie is wrong on pretty much everything... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #132

No, this is definitely no surprise.. Cha Apr 2017 #147

There's a danger in continuing to cite statistics from right after an election. Orsino Apr 2017 #134

Democratic false narratives are just as destructive and unhelpful as any other stopbush Apr 2017 #135

I think it's important to get FACTS right. He had it all Cha Apr 2017 #137

Everyone at DU rails against tRump having his alternative facts. stopbush Apr 2017 #138

Yes! Shine a Light on Cha Apr 2017 #139