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DanTex

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37. OK, and that's a reasonable argument. I might not agree, but it's defensible.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 08:47 PM
Apr 2017

Yeah, railing against money in politics is always a good idea. Some of the "unicorn" policies have political downsides, though. And they haven't been tested politically by right-wing attacks, because until Bernie's campaign nobody ever talked about them very much.

For example, Bernie wants the Democratic Party as a whole to support single payer. Boy, that's a risky play. The GOP would turn it into "Dems want to massively raise your taxes, kick you off of your health insurance, and force you into a government program."

And they'd kind of have a point. Because even if the single payer did end up working out and giving everybody decent care, at the very least the transition would be highly disruptive. I know that single payer polls well, and that people pack into big arenas to hear Bernie talk about it. But I'm not at all convinced that bringing policies like that into a national debate against the GOP would work out very well.

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K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #1
HA Goodman!!! NCTraveler Apr 2017 #2
Isn't Ross Perot still alive? L. Coyote Apr 2017 #3
Lie-berman? No. Lint Head Apr 2017 #4
anyone who is undecided after this election, WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #5
This is the reason I quit listening to Hartmann years ago. He was always telling independents & Tarheel_Dem Apr 2017 #6
What an odd description of Independents you offered. democrank Apr 2017 #7
lol WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #18
I need to choose a side? democrank Apr 2017 #20
I voted a straight Democratic... tonedevil Apr 2017 #22
hear that, little woman? Skittles Apr 2017 #25
lol WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #36
I guess we know different kinds of independents. DanTex Apr 2017 #24
What causes you to think that was the reason the 100 Democratic seats were lost? delisen Apr 2017 #27
Corruption in either party needs to be fought ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #8
Sure, but right now corruption lives overwhelmingly in one party and not the other. DanTex Apr 2017 #9
Is it just me or are most Independents older white dudes? nt LexVegas Apr 2017 #10
And young white dudes too. nt DanTex Apr 2017 #11
Yes. White dudes. nt LexVegas Apr 2017 #12
Let's you and them fight! klook Apr 2017 #13
Very good points. The funny thing is that in Connecticut there are no "independents".... George II Apr 2017 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #15
Lol. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #21
I have found this... tonedevil Apr 2017 #23
lieberman..... KentuckyWoman Apr 2017 #16
As if The DOOR hasn't always been OPEN to INDEPENDENTS Cha Apr 2017 #17
Most of them were Russians tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #19
A Pew research chart (sorry no link) panader0 Apr 2017 #26
Independents, by and large, are more conservative than Democrats. DanTex Apr 2017 #28
My problem with centrists is that the center keeps moving further to the right. panader0 Apr 2017 #30
Well, sanders thinks we can move to the left when it comes to a class-war and that that will JCanete Apr 2017 #32
OK, and that's a reasonable argument. I might not agree, but it's defensible. DanTex Apr 2017 #37
I think we agree about how risky it is. I'm not at all convinced we'll win that fight, but its JCanete Apr 2017 #38
I think Sanders should be careful about how he promotes being an independent. JCanete Apr 2017 #29
Awesome OP! JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #31
FWIW...Peronally, I simply have no desire to "belong" to any group... MedusaX Apr 2017 #33
I have an idea... kentuck Apr 2017 #34
The Democratic Party should be controlled by Democrats and not indies Gothmog Apr 2017 #35
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