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muriel_volestrangler

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19. No one will convince you? Why not? ISIS say they prefer RW governments
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 08:19 AM
Apr 2017

who will drive moderate Muslims towards ISIS. This is conventional wisdom, eg:

Islamic State will want a landslide victory for Marine Le Pen

ISIS write about it themselves:

There is a recruitment framework. The Grey Zone, a 10-page editorial in Isis’s online magazine Dabiq in early 2015, describes the twilight area occupied by most Muslims between good and evil, the caliphate and the infidel, which the “blessed operations of September 11” brought into relief. Quoting Bin Laden it said: “The world today is divided. Bush spoke the truth when he said, ‘Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists’, with the actual ‘terrorist’ being the western crusaders.” Now, it said, “the time had come for another event to … bring division to the world and destroy the grey zone”. The attacks in Paris were the latest instalment of this strategy, targeting Europe, as did the recent attacks in Turkey. There will be more, much more, to come.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/15/terrorists-isis

Yes, ISIS want a clear enemy they can send attackers against, so they want bigoted right wingers in charge of western governments. So there's no reason to doubt ISIS involvement in the Paris etc. attacks; they benefit ISIS (who want wars) and western RWers.

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RW blowhards generate soundsbites that are recruiting gold for ISIS. Pholus Apr 2017 #1
You beat me to it get the red out Apr 2017 #2
Yup. They clearly want to pick the winner in the French elections. Pholus Apr 2017 #3
yep just like invading Iraq is what made the Taliban grow luvMIdog Apr 2017 #10
Birds of a feather duncang Apr 2017 #4
Well I see the Con has a tweet malaise Apr 2017 #7
personally, IMO putin gov spawned, backed & funded IS fighters and marched the first group out of Sunlei Apr 2017 #5
Interesting post malaise Apr 2017 #8
IMO, It's the nature of humanity an endless loop. We're fortunate people to be able to tell Mr. Trum Sunlei Apr 2017 #11
Mad world indeed malaise Apr 2017 #13
The Pale of Settlement, and your map, was about where Russia allows Jews to live muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #15
I meant over the long term, the history of 'russia' and their treatment of people for centuries. Sunlei Apr 2017 #18
Nose does not mislead. :) After all, ISIS is a RW end-times group. Hortensis Apr 2017 #6
Agreed BigOleDummy Apr 2017 #12
God's righteous ones will live forever. Hortensis Apr 2017 #23
ISIS and extreme Right Wing groups do seem to need each other for recruitment. gordianot Apr 2017 #9
Someone needs to tell me why all the attacks in th past two years appear to have helped the RWs malaise Apr 2017 #14
No one will convince you? Why not? ISIS say they prefer RW governments muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #19
They do. Their ideology is to make things as bad as possible to create chaos for them to fill. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #16
I'll remain skeptical malaise Apr 2017 #17
It's the Bolshevik game plan that worked in Russia. But ISIS overestimates their power & appeal. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #22
That's their gameplan, and they haven't tried to hide it Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #20
ISIS hates everyone that isn't ISIS oberliner Apr 2017 #21
Of Course They Do itcfish Apr 2017 #24
Then Black Bloc protesters love the police state. cheapdate Apr 2017 #25
Extreme ideology by any other name is..... JDC Apr 2017 #26
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