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15. Yes, we can pick up a lot more votes by moving left than (further) right.

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Tue Jul 3, 2012, 08:30 AM

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This is just my opinion... [View all] kentuck Jul 2012 OP

I agree.... vi5 Jul 2012 #1

Yes, it is largely how the issues were framed... rfranklin Jul 2012 #2

Or a similar example of that... JHB Jul 2012 #6

+1, I read somewhere Luntz et al are MASTERS at framing to get out conservative emotions.... uponit7771 Jul 2012 #21

Agree ewagner Jul 2012 #3

so you have your personal view about the differences, but I strongly disagree bigtree Jul 2012 #4

I think the present reality proves you wrong. kentuck Jul 2012 #7

dude bigtree Jul 2012 #10

I disagree with your politics. kentuck Jul 2012 #47

I admire your patience. Kaleko Jul 2012 #52

Questioning the motives of folks who answer your posts isn't 'patience' bigtree Jul 2012 #60

so you make another smart ass assumption bigtree Jul 2012 #59

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #61

still attacking bigtree Jul 2012 #63

My post says, "This is just my opinion..." kentuck Jul 2012 #64

I didn't attack you at all, I said I disagreed. bigtree Jul 2012 #65

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #68

"This is just my opinion-- XXX is an asshat." Yet for some reason, XXX got mad... LanternWaste Jul 2012 #74

Most of todays dems Teamster Jeff Jul 2012 #27

Yes but only on things that don't matter to the 1% zeemike Jul 2012 #11

well, that's pretty much how most folks operate in real life bigtree Jul 2012 #13

Oh it is definitely the influence of the media... zeemike Jul 2012 #29

People like being told what to think, what to feel. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #37

+1 freshwest Jul 2012 #38

So true. zeemike Jul 2012 #43

I think you are right, in a public context Shankapotomus Jul 2012 #5

The Republicans think that, too. That's why they don't like Romney. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #8

ACA was originally called "ROMNEYCARE", when it was first implemented in Mass, though. Romulox Jul 2012 #23

Yep spot on /nt jimlup Jul 2012 #9

I agree deutsey Jul 2012 #12

I keep looking for a concrete list canoeist52 Jul 2012 #14

Yes, we can pick up a lot more votes by moving left than (further) right. Scuba Jul 2012 #15

The undecided voter is in the middle unfortunately flamingdem Jul 2012 #67

A full 40% of the electorate sits on their hands during a PRESIDENTIAL election... Scuba Jul 2012 #69

Well since neither side will do that - flamingdem Jul 2012 #71

And we enable them when we don't demand they refute the lies and move left. Scuba Jul 2012 #73

IF we retake the house and win the senate + Potus flamingdem Jul 2012 #75

Republicans stay on message. Always. democrat_patriot Jul 2012 #16

Obamney care some clever DUer called it yesterday! CrispyQ Jul 2012 #31

K&R. As you say, tax policies, defense spending, poverty, equality, human rights, Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #17

Really? Do you think voters are guessing between rep and dems? aikoaiko Jul 2012 #18

Not the philosophical differences but what dems will stand up AGAINST and hollar loud about... uponit7771 Jul 2012 #20

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2012 #19

Economic policy is nearly 1:1: Deregulation, "free trade", bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich, Romulox Jul 2012 #22

We need a WPA style jobs program abelenkpe Jul 2012 #34

The DC Media needs to get out of DC too. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #24

K&R. I agree. Overseas Jul 2012 #25

Sad, but all too true.... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #26

You can't look at Presidential politics for your answer. CaptJasHook Jul 2012 #28

+1.000 freshwest Jul 2012 #39

Perhaps, but I have a caution to this - the gulf between the informed and uninformed NRaleighLiberal Jul 2012 #30

Majority of people vote emotionally, not rationally or reasonably. harun Jul 2012 #32

Most Americans vote for the last and loudest commercial they see. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #77

I agree, and frogmarch Jul 2012 #33

I think the problem is that debate in this country is basically over conservative ideas Johonny Jul 2012 #35

Agreed. YoungDemCA Jul 2012 #46

'NAFTA on Steroids': The Trans-Pacific Partnership (Why didn't we know) CrispyQ Jul 2012 #36

+1 (nt) rbnyc Jul 2012 #55

It's 99% media saturation Doctor_J Jul 2012 #40

There is plenty of difference kctim Jul 2012 #41

Now Election Can't Encourage People. tofayel Jul 2012 #42

Politicians seek votes, and the money to get votes. Not ideals, honesty, or even decency. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #44

Capitalism or capitalism lite, basically. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #45

Starting to look more like fascism or fascism lite. nt whatchamacallit Jul 2012 #48

An opinion shared by many of us. 99Forever Jul 2012 #49

I agree. CanSocDem Jul 2012 #50

I agree the Dems have moved much closer to the Reps on many issues but ... Kablooie Jul 2012 #51

I think the philosophical difference is clearly defined. Democrats favor the working man while cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #53

Both parties have actually moved away from each other. joshcryer Jul 2012 #54

During election season. They know we have the memory of a brain damaged gnat. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #78

I agree too, totally. nt Raine Jul 2012 #56

It's the "play nice" problem Scootaloo Jul 2012 #57

Poll: Partisan Polarization Surges in Bush, Obama Years muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #58

Social and economic dtom67 Jul 2012 #62

I disagree fervently flamingdem Jul 2012 #66

How very classy. Have the OP banned from his own thread and then continue your rant. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #70

I think that would help in some ways - hurt in some other ways hfojvt Jul 2012 #72

this is largely what I've been saying since 2000.... mike_c Jul 2012 #76

As usual, Chomsky nails it: coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #79

� Of course ! Kaleko Jul 2012 #80