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Tom Rinaldo

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74. That happens to an extent

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 11:24 AM

Apr 2017

We don't have to agree on to what extent but I'll leave it at that for now. But no, I wasn't confusing them. I literally counted threads that started out in the OP with a negative spin toward Sanders. While there are also many pro Sanders OPs posted that really isn't the same thing. This is a board that supports members of the Democratic Party Coalition, and Sanders is in that category whether or not he is controversial to some. Sanders won millions of Democratic votes in the primaries in one of the closest presidential primary contests that the Democrats have waged since Carter vs Kennedy in 1980. Only Obama vs Clinton in 2008 was closer. Sanders lost but he still has a great deal of support among Democrats. We usually don't focus our sustained fire on someone like that at DU except during primary seasons.

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What do Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Al Gore and Bill Clinton have in common? [View all] Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 OP

Cool it on the divisiveness and exacerbating #TrumpRussia inflicted wounds. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #1

I'm not calling out anyone pesonally, and I accept that Sanders is fair game for criticism Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #3

Question: Who do you think is the base of the Democratic Party? delisen Apr 2017 #60

Of the Democratic Party or the Democratic Coalition? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #72

The winds will most assuredly shift. David__77 Apr 2017 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author ymetca Apr 2017 #4

Obama, Bill Clinton, and Al Gore aren't popular in that district. nycbos Apr 2017 #5

Hillary did pretty good, but I'm sure safeinOhio Apr 2017 #16

Gore wouldn't be much help. I excuse the Clintons & Obama....they're TIRED!!! Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #51

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #6

There were extra forces against Hillary also that she bears no responisbility for Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #7

The media mikeysnot Apr 2017 #22

Neither Hillary, nor anybody supporting her, ever said that it was her "turn." StevieM Apr 2017 #26

I agree with you. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #34

Thank you for your kind words. It makes me feel united as a party when Sanders supporters StevieM Apr 2017 #40

An excellent way to mark that event. n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #43

And it is absurd to blame HRC alone for her defeat. She was smeared by a corrupt FBI and a Russian StevieM Apr 2017 #29

I absolutely agree. n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #36

"She alone is responsible for her defeat". I'm going to assume that you've had no access to a..... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2017 #32

Only in the sense of "the buck stops here" is there any grain of truth in it Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #37

None of them hold public office? Control-Z Apr 2017 #8

True enough. Unlike Kaine and Warren and a lot of others n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #9

None of them are politicians rock Apr 2017 #10

Sure, among many possible correct answers Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #11

Great post! These anti-Bernie, anti (small-d) democratic posts need to stop. SalviaBlue Apr 2017 #12

None of them hold the position as "Head of Democratic Outreach"? JHan Apr 2017 #13

Nor are they giving interview after interview. Speech after speech. Townhall after townhall. SaschaHM Apr 2017 #15

For the U.S. Senate Democratic Caucus you mean? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #17

So his leadership position is .. for what exactly? JHan Apr 2017 #23

Lots of ways I can answer you Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #42

Ok, so we agree that he could have answered the question better, JHan Apr 2017 #55

None of the past candidates have said negative dismissive things except one OKNancy Apr 2017 #14

Nancy the best way to move on Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #20

yes it's true OKNancy Apr 2017 #21

Fair enough Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #27

So now Sanders... SaschaHM Apr 2017 #18

I ran down a long list of high profie Democrats and started at the top. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #24

Agree with you Tom. zentrum Apr 2017 #19

That's for sure. It was very sudden. Almost like a planned attack on DU. C Moon Apr 2017 #28

I know Louise Mensch zentrum Apr 2017 #45

I'm one who agree's with the OP padfun Apr 2017 #25

Other than innuendo, prove the help. nt fleabiscuit Apr 2017 #30

Thanks for this post, Tom. I would trust Bernie with my life and I could care less what ANYBODY says BigBearJohn Apr 2017 #31

I wonder who stands to gain the most... Nevernose Apr 2017 #33

That's a message BainsBane Apr 2017 #57

"Helping" a candidate has to be strategic bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #35

If more people don't stop looking back NoMoreRepugs Apr 2017 #38

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #39

What's your point? How many of those you mention are heading up Democrats' outreach effort? George II Apr 2017 #41

For the Senate Democratic caucus? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #50

Why is he touring with the Democratic National Committee chairman? George II Apr 2017 #54

Whether they did or not, chances are they knew whether or not he was a progressive. Sanders? George II Apr 2017 #56

Punish Democrats First! IronLionZion Apr 2017 #44

Totally off the mark. lark Apr 2017 #46

I'll take "none of them are part of the Democratic leadership right now". How'd I do? DanTex Apr 2017 #47

sick of the anti-Sanders bs too Astraea Apr 2017 #48

I think you make some good points BainsBane Apr 2017 #49

I'm kind of out of time for now Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #59

Interesting perspective. BainsBane Apr 2017 #64

Bernie's overall influence has been to move the electorate to the left. Jim Lane Apr 2017 #67

One other observation Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #71

Bernie presents himself as better BainsBane Apr 2017 #79

If people would quit bringing him up like he's the freaking savior of the world nini Apr 2017 #52

One reason why JackpineRadicals.com came to being. mwooldri Apr 2017 #53

Sorry, those folk brought egregious rightwing sources to DU in order to smear Democrats emulatorloo Apr 2017 #58

+1 :) nt mwooldri Apr 2017 #65

During the primary, there was toxicity from both sides. Jim Lane Apr 2017 #68

what does that have to do with answering a simple question when asked ? JI7 Apr 2017 #61

Well Said, Sir!!! LongTomH Apr 2017 #62

None of those people regularly disrespect the Democratic party nor are any of them KittyWampus Apr 2017 #63

See post #76 n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #78

Let's see... GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #66

You are Confusing Original Posts with Responses delisen Apr 2017 #69

That happens to an extent Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #74

Of the 4 persons you list all are Democrats; none are Head of Outreach for Dems delisen Apr 2017 #70

Have you passed on your displeasure to Chuck Schumer? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #76

Thank you for your correction on Sanders official title in outreach. delisen Apr 2017 #81

Politicians are criticized, tin gods and sacred cows are attacked. LanternWaste Apr 2017 #73

they are all democrats? frankieallen Apr 2017 #75

Sure. Another correct answer. They are also all white non members of the Senate Democratic Caucus Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #77

DURec leftstreet Apr 2017 #80