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66. A couple things

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 01:27 PM

Apr 2017

I have a hard time believing this isn't about Sanders. Nothing personal, but there's been a bunch of posts about this here and stories in the media, and the once consistent is that the story is to some degree about Sanders.

The other thing is that while TO ME it's not just about economics, to OTHERS it's not just about women's reproductive rights.

Progressivism is a wide variety of things to wide variety of people.

Saying that, it IS hard, because pretty much every US politician disagrees with my definition of progressivism. Though in Europe that's not the case.

Hard to be too rigid about these things when you realise that decent people on the left don't agree, but all share some basic common goals and beliefs.

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Progressivism is NOT just about economic rights. [View all] MineralMan Apr 2017 OP

K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #1

Progressivism is NOT just a wedge to divide Democrats. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #2

While you are correct, some are using the term "progressive" to MineralMan Apr 2017 #4

I get the difference.. JHan Apr 2017 #9

Exactly. I vote for Democrats in general elections. MineralMan Apr 2017 #13

Not to harp on the issue, but.... Adrahil Apr 2017 #3

This thread is NOT about Senator Sanders. MineralMan Apr 2017 #6

I think it applies to most social democrats Adrahil Apr 2017 #10

On the other hand, calling a candidate who has actively SPONSORED MineralMan Apr 2017 #14

Give it up Adrahil... LakeArenal Apr 2017 #56

Strongly Agree delisen Apr 2017 #8

Always gotta go there.... HopeAgain Apr 2017 #30

Do you disagree with my assessment? If so, why? Adrahil Apr 2017 #44

I'm just tired of seeing everything go to Sanders HopeAgain Apr 2017 #47

Actually you're wrong. Adrahil Apr 2017 #49

Economic Justice will ALWAYS be more important to me MicaelS Apr 2017 #31

You misunderstand me. Adrahil Apr 2017 #46

How do we get to someone who goes off topic.. Repeatedly. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #57

Actually, you can not have Economic Justice without Social Justice. fun n serious Apr 2017 #59

I agree with many of your points, but I think both are equal DemocraticSocialist8 Apr 2017 #64

If you add women and people of color -it's MORE people than the remainder... bettyellen Apr 2017 #65

Black Lives Matter. forjusticethunders Apr 2017 #73

The problem with that is... lies Apr 2017 #5

There is a difference between voting for a Democratic candidate MineralMan Apr 2017 #7

That's not a difference lies Apr 2017 #11

You reinforce my position that progressivism is not just economic. MineralMan Apr 2017 #16

A couple things lies Apr 2017 #66

Been reading you, making it too complicated, seriously Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #32

No lies Apr 2017 #67

Thought so, this post is VERY familiar, saw it A LOT last year Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #68

yes lies Apr 2017 #69

Oh fuck that, people responsible for trump have no quality or integrity Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #70

You're extremely confused lies Apr 2017 #72

You are splitting hairs. MicaelS Apr 2017 #41

I'm not really aware of pro choice people even really saying what needs to be said. I agree with my brewens Apr 2017 #24

"a series of purity tests" musette_sf Apr 2017 #61

Economic rights are tied to Social rights Yavin4 Apr 2017 #12

There is a relationship between the two, but MineralMan Apr 2017 #15

If a woman is forced to carry a child to term.... Yavin4 Apr 2017 #17

That is true, assuming that she is trying to earn a living. MineralMan Apr 2017 #18

I think Human Rights is the Overriding Issue of the 21st Century delisen Apr 2017 #19

Well put. Thanks! MineralMan Apr 2017 #22

Now you, buddy. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #34

My hair is also on fire, but I keep my hat on, MineralMan Apr 2017 #38

OK, that is a new one. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #42

There are more of us than you imagine. MineralMan Apr 2017 #45

I agree nt Progressive dog Apr 2017 #20

It's not JUST about anything. Iggo Apr 2017 #21

Exactly. Just as I said in the title of this OP. MineralMan Apr 2017 #23

. Iggo Apr 2017 #25

.... ehrnst Apr 2017 #28

Trickle down civil rights isn't going to work any more than trickle down economics ehrnst Apr 2017 #26

THIS. BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #29

Absolutely. MineralMan Apr 2017 #35

Thank you for reminding people what this is really about. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #36

K&R I posted something similar. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #27

But do you also agree... HopeAgain Apr 2017 #33

Yes, I agree with those things. MineralMan Apr 2017 #39

Agree, and the point is still simple. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #40

But we need to improve the two party system or we will end up with oligarchs and fascists... HopeAgain Apr 2017 #50

Of course, lets improve eerything we can, cancer research, cocoa puffs, how fast a toaster works. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #53

I have never voted otherwise HopeAgain Apr 2017 #62

I can support a terrible "Democrat" as long as they toss us a bone occasionally. yallerdawg Apr 2017 #37

I will VOTE FOR such a Democrat, rather than letting a Republican win, MineralMan Apr 2017 #43

Will you defend them... yallerdawg Apr 2017 #51

I don't live in a part of the country where such distinctions are needed. MineralMan Apr 2017 #52

I agree. Being progressive is bekkilyn Apr 2017 #48

Did anyone say it was? n/t QC Apr 2017 #54

I don't know. I am saying that it is not. MineralMan Apr 2017 #58

One can be a Democrat w/o being progressive. And that's okay. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #55

OK. But my practice is to endorse only those candidates MineralMan Apr 2017 #60

Perez, the Head of the DNC itself zentrum Apr 2017 #63

I agree completely mcar Apr 2017 #71

Thank you! we can do it Apr 2017 #74