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Vesper

(229 posts)
96. No, thank you.
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 04:58 AM
Apr 2017

Neither I, nor any other Democrat, is required to lay back and take it, while a bunch of men do not take no for an answer and attempt to force their eagerness to deprive us of our human rights upon us.

We will NOT "suck it up". Do NOT EVER make thus demand of us. Yeah, supporting the human rights of women us NOT a purity test, failing to do so is a despicable violation of progressive values and principles. Asking us to "suck it up" is deeply offensive. This is what the Right Wing zealots keep telling us, anyone supporting this is no progressive, liberal or a Dem.

Please post the anti choice bills sponsored by Manchin, or whatever Dem one wants to bash, so we can compare Right Wing anti choicers head to head, if you can't stop making this comparison.

Is there some procedure of obsequiousness required to keep Bernie from saying damaging things? If so, please forward that to Ossof, who never asked Sanders to bless him with his personal title of "progressive" as defined by Vernie, which includes a guy who sponsors right wing abuses of women.

Stop assuming, that always seems to end people on these jingoistic tirades into avoidable mistakes a little homework would prevent. His specific policy positions will inform you of what his positions are, no need for general assumptions that leave you misinformed. Bernie should also do his homework, and not just allow his ego to determine who is a progressive and who is not. Ossified is not concealing anything at all, it is out there on his website, it is in his speeches etc. not sure what the mystery here unless there is there is something blocking the information from getting in.

Wendy Davis was not pretending to be a Republican, nor is Ossoff. Mello literally was being a right wing extremist Republican, but Bernie rushed over to endorse and appear with him. Democrats are not happy here, not with the candidate, the endorsement or the comments here.

Well, is that because O'Mallley is not attacking the party on a daily basis, throwing out women's basic rights, did not Dutch the party while demanding to remake it in his image, despite promising things, failing to follow through on them, excusing the obvious racism and misogyny of Trump voters, and demanding we ignore the vase to embrace these people who wish harm upon us?

O'Malley did not do damage to the party or the base, he did not lie yo the, he did not foster distrust through conspiracy theories, he did not go on RT and push this bike stuff. I am sure that O'Malkey would not be behaving this way even if he was more prominent hisar, it's not who he is, or has ever been. People are placing blame where it was due, when there is evidence of the dirty tricks that were employed in this century.

Attacks on your opponent for releasing her taxes when you refused to? Attacking her for positions you took, but she had no standing to vote on, blaming her for her spouse's actions? Lying outright, inviting hacking and blaming her for being hacked? Exploiting Russian produced crap from Wikileaks? Yeah, it was not just Trump doing every one of these things, it was not O'Malley either. People are going on about what we actually saw happening in real time, and we do not forget. If he acted like O'Malley, there would be no reason for this anger that his comments and behavior gave justly invited.

That whole "we must not be rigid about women's basic rights"thing is infuriating and supporting a guy who sponsored a 20 week ban and forced ultrasounds? Utterly disgusting. Anyone who says this or supports such people deserves the anger and the blame for what they have chosen to support. Marin O'Malkey never did such a thing, if he did, he would also be justly excoriated. Stop excusing Bernie with all these false comparisons and equivalencies. He is responsible for what comes out of his mouth, and we have the right to do so, and that's not anyone being mean to him. It,s treating him like the national leader he wants to be. This is deliberate behavior that seeks to irritate, inflame and denigrate the base of the party, the women. We will not stand quietly and be ignored by people seeking to diminish us, period.

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It was just ignorant on Sanders part. He has made a career of yelling at walls. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #1
OKAY, pull me back from the edge because that really pissed! mfcorey1 Apr 2017 #2
I think it is going to have more of a minimal impact nationaly than it is in GA. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #3
Why would say he's not wanted here? nt StubbornThings Apr 2017 #5
The make-up of the electorate in GA. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #8
Based on what? StubbornThings Apr 2017 #9
Based on history. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #10
Hillary beat Bernie there--Where is she? panader0 Apr 2017 #13
I don't know where she is. Not sure what that has to do with anything. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #19
"I don't know if he is a true progressive" panader0 Apr 2017 #21
"Are you suggesting he doesn't? " NCTraveler Apr 2017 #24
Well, is he or not? panader0 Apr 2017 #25
"bashers" NCTraveler Apr 2017 #27
You're not the head of Democratic Outreach, so it isn't your responsibility to know emulatorloo Apr 2017 #39
Outreach to.. Whom? quakerboy Apr 2017 #77
I think if anything it's more likely to help Ossoff than hurt him Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #41
. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #46
How much money did the DNC contribute? Why didn't they help fund the Kansas race? Lone Star Apr 2017 #66
To be fair, she also did not fair well in Georgia quakerboy Apr 2017 #76
I'm pissed too fun n serious Apr 2017 #23
Then he should have said "I haven't followed that race." Instead of saying he didn't know pnwmom Apr 2017 #11
He's just not good at speaking off-script. randome Apr 2017 #15
Then he shouldn't go off script to speak about Democrats or his habitual negativity pnwmom Apr 2017 #17
His script is even worse when it comes to Democrats. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #20
You are arguing a point not in contention in my post. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #16
agree that gopers will throw a lot of garbage at ossoff, but sanders shouldn't give em bullets gah iluvtennis Apr 2017 #33
I live in Atlanta and I disagree. nt StubbornThings Apr 2017 #4
I beg to differ. Let's just see what develops! I live in District 6. mfcorey1 Apr 2017 #6
I live in District 5. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #7
Did you ever hear about Ossoff before this election? panader0 Apr 2017 #12
yes. that race got huge attention for a house race JI7 Apr 2017 #18
Who cares if he's a "true progressive"? What does that even mean? DanTex Apr 2017 #28
Out of curiosity--do you know what question was posed to Bernie panader0 Apr 2017 #38
Exactly Heartstrings Apr 2017 #45
Here you go. Fla Dem Apr 2017 #57
I don't know either. panader0 Apr 2017 #58
Hear! Hear! kytngirl Apr 2017 #43
It confuses me that you think Bernie running as a spoiler would have been a good thing quakerboy Apr 2017 #78
A true progressive like Mello? RedWedge Apr 2017 #37
Mello, anti Pro Choice Fla Dem Apr 2017 #59
I'll use my sarcasm typeface next time. RedWedge Apr 2017 #60
I knew what you were saying. Simply reinforcing your point and providing info for others. Fla Dem Apr 2017 #61
Yes, he never criticized Ossoff. mvd Apr 2017 #93
Ossoff is lewis' guy and georgia went for hillary over him JI7 Apr 2017 #14
No, Georgia did not go for Hillary Clinton mtngirl47 Apr 2017 #32
I think he meant GA went for Hil ... Whiskeytide Apr 2017 #34
Ok....now I get it! mtngirl47 Apr 2017 #40
Yeah, I don't think it is his place to comment on a race in Georgia. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Apr 2017 #22
'doesn't know if Ossoff is a true progressive' musette_sf Apr 2017 #26
Uh, why is this such a huge problem? Warpy Apr 2017 #29
That's the way I see it, but there is a sizable number of people here refighting the primary That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #47
My ignore list is growing Warpy Apr 2017 #48
Exactly...this is a good thread to "thin the herd". Cattledog Apr 2017 #79
That pretty much sums it up. The same actors are involved in most of these OPs. TheBlackAdder Apr 2017 #51
What do you mean? Vesper Apr 2017 #53
This isn't just disagreement, this is a blatant attempt to split the party Warpy Apr 2017 #62
There are a lot of people disagreeing, and it might be a blatant attempt to split the party Vesper Apr 2017 #68
I didn't think a Democratic candidate should seek and accecpt the endorsement of war criminals. That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #95
No, thank you. Vesper Apr 2017 #96
ontheissues.org - Joe Manchin - "Pro-life; pro-NRA; anti-EPA " - Tim Kaine is pro-life too That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #97
I'm about to hide all of it. mvd Apr 2017 #94
I agree Gothmog Apr 2017 #30
Look for a simple answer ... Whiskeytide Apr 2017 #31
Yes! In fact Bernie saying OSsof may not be a a progressive Lucky Luciano Apr 2017 #54
I don't understand the conspiracy here bekkilyn Apr 2017 #35
The last thing Claire McCaskill would want anyone to say about her is loyalsister Apr 2017 #36
I just saw the 1st negative ad vs Handel by the DNCC. None before now despite........... MRDAWG Apr 2017 #42
Alright already! lexington filly Apr 2017 #44
Thanks for this post lexington filly progressoid Apr 2017 #52
I would be thrilled to never see Bernie's name on DU again. Unfortunately and stupidly some seaglass Apr 2017 #86
Your concern is noted n2doc Apr 2017 #49
I can't believe we are 3 months into a fucking Trump Presidency and so many people even give a shit world wide wally Apr 2017 #50
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #55
Yikes... Mike Nelson Apr 2017 #56
But, he's campaigning for a pro-"lifer".. Cha Apr 2017 #63
I have seen quite a few of Bernie's posts on Facebook since election. kentuck Apr 2017 #64
You might want to listen to how Ossoff identifies himself before going off on Bernie. Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #65
Bernie could have read Jon's website and found that he IS a progressive, pnwmom Apr 2017 #67
Since Ossof has rejected labeling - for whatever reason Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #69
Which post violates which TOS? Do you think it's okay for Bernie to bash Democrats pnwmom Apr 2017 #70
If he is posting on DU, I would alert on it or hide it if I was on a jury. Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #72
Except he doesn't consider himself a Democrat. So why should we? pnwmom Apr 2017 #73
Because the TOS say he is treated as one here. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #74
The TOS allows constructive criticism, but not "disrespectful nicknames, insults, pnwmom Apr 2017 #75
You didn't include just plain old insults - Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #89
I dont get why yall think its an aspersion quakerboy Apr 2017 #81
He also didn't endorse the only Democrat in the race with a chance to beat the Republicans. pnwmom Apr 2017 #82
Did Ossoff ask for his support? quakerboy Apr 2017 #90
I wouldn't have minded if Bernie had just said , "I didn't follow that race." pnwmom Apr 2017 #91
I disagree quakerboy Apr 2017 #92
I think that Ossoff being labelled as a progressive would hurt him a lot more. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2017 #71
Were of you alerted for abuse? I'm asking because someone alerted on a tweet underthematrix Apr 2017 #80
I'll toast to that.. Cha Apr 2017 #83
BS said "..he isn't prepared to back Democrats just because of Cha Apr 2017 #84
I've kept my mouth shut, too lillypaddle Apr 2017 #85
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #87
Especially since he is campaigning for an anti choicer and calling HIM progressive obamanut2012 Apr 2017 #88
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