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In reply to the discussion: I have tried to be neutral for the good of the party, but when I hear that Bernie [View all]Vesper
(229 posts)Neither I, nor any other Democrat, is required to lay back and take it, while a bunch of men do not take no for an answer and attempt to force their eagerness to deprive us of our human rights upon us.
We will NOT "suck it up". Do NOT EVER make thus demand of us. Yeah, supporting the human rights of women us NOT a purity test, failing to do so is a despicable violation of progressive values and principles. Asking us to "suck it up" is deeply offensive. This is what the Right Wing zealots keep telling us, anyone supporting this is no progressive, liberal or a Dem.
Please post the anti choice bills sponsored by Manchin, or whatever Dem one wants to bash, so we can compare Right Wing anti choicers head to head, if you can't stop making this comparison.
Is there some procedure of obsequiousness required to keep Bernie from saying damaging things? If so, please forward that to Ossof, who never asked Sanders to bless him with his personal title of "progressive" as defined by Vernie, which includes a guy who sponsors right wing abuses of women.
Stop assuming, that always seems to end people on these jingoistic tirades into avoidable mistakes a little homework would prevent. His specific policy positions will inform you of what his positions are, no need for general assumptions that leave you misinformed. Bernie should also do his homework, and not just allow his ego to determine who is a progressive and who is not. Ossified is not concealing anything at all, it is out there on his website, it is in his speeches etc. not sure what the mystery here unless there is there is something blocking the information from getting in.
Wendy Davis was not pretending to be a Republican, nor is Ossoff. Mello literally was being a right wing extremist Republican, but Bernie rushed over to endorse and appear with him. Democrats are not happy here, not with the candidate, the endorsement or the comments here.
Well, is that because O'Mallley is not attacking the party on a daily basis, throwing out women's basic rights, did not Dutch the party while demanding to remake it in his image, despite promising things, failing to follow through on them, excusing the obvious racism and misogyny of Trump voters, and demanding we ignore the vase to embrace these people who wish harm upon us?
O'Malley did not do damage to the party or the base, he did not lie yo the, he did not foster distrust through conspiracy theories, he did not go on RT and push this bike stuff. I am sure that O'Malkey would not be behaving this way even if he was more prominent hisar, it's not who he is, or has ever been. People are placing blame where it was due, when there is evidence of the dirty tricks that were employed in this century.
Attacks on your opponent for releasing her taxes when you refused to? Attacking her for positions you took, but she had no standing to vote on, blaming her for her spouse's actions? Lying outright, inviting hacking and blaming her for being hacked? Exploiting Russian produced crap from Wikileaks? Yeah, it was not just Trump doing every one of these things, it was not O'Malley either. People are going on about what we actually saw happening in real time, and we do not forget. If he acted like O'Malley, there would be no reason for this anger that his comments and behavior gave justly invited.
That whole "we must not be rigid about women's basic rights"thing is infuriating and supporting a guy who sponsored a 20 week ban and forced ultrasounds? Utterly disgusting. Anyone who says this or supports such people deserves the anger and the blame for what they have chosen to support. Marin O'Malkey never did such a thing, if he did, he would also be justly excoriated. Stop excusing Bernie with all these false comparisons and equivalencies. He is responsible for what comes out of his mouth, and we have the right to do so, and that's not anyone being mean to him. It,s treating him like the national leader he wants to be. This is deliberate behavior that seeks to irritate, inflame and denigrate the base of the party, the women. We will not stand quietly and be ignored by people seeking to diminish us, period.