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28. This all seems reasonable... Until you think about it.

Sat Apr 22, 2017, 09:58 AM

Apr 2017

The forum currently judges post a about Sanders and posts about the Democratic Party and its politicians differently.

So it's totally fine to post 100 anti-Bermie posts a day, and those can be full of comments about how awful Bernie is, and the moderators are cool with that and all Bernie supporters can do - these are people that vote for Dems remember - is ignore it.

But if a Bernie supporter (or even a Bernie hater that isn't scared of criticism, debate and reform - those ideas aren't owned by Sanders afterall) posts even a vaguely critical post, or even an independent fact check about a Dem, that is unflattering, they'll have their accounts threatened.

In essence there's two classes on DU, and a power imbalance, and frankly we know that that leads to abuse and to protests and to disharmony.

But that's what happens when the most popular Democrat is actually an independent.

Chances of it peacefully resolving while this power embalance remains? Next to none.

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Hear me out: we all know trolls are trying to divide us here, but there is a way to stop it. [View all] Squinch Apr 2017 OP

Unity will happen when 2 newcomers emerge for the 2020 presidential election. grossproffit Apr 2017 #1

Yeah, and then it can start afresh. Cha Apr 2017 #4

That won't stop the Republicans and others who want to destroy the Democratic Party. yardwork Apr 2017 #10

And, we have a lot of essential work that we have to join together to do in the meantime. Squinch Apr 2017 #39

Don't Be Naive dlk Apr 2017 #34

You are so correct.. N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2017 #2

Good idea this out out of control...constant juries. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #3

How to destroy a troll: Starve & Alert MoonRiver Apr 2017 #5

K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #6

Amen to this! I believe in progressive policies that empower the citizens of this great nation, Left-over Apr 2017 #9

Trash their threads as well. . . DinahMoeHum Apr 2017 #7

I found a slightly different approach that is working well for me. yardwork Apr 2017 #8

I thought about trashing a topic the other day, but stopped short. phylny Apr 2017 #21

I find it very helpful. yardwork Apr 2017 #33

Since you started a thread to announce what word you were going to use to trash threads. m-lekktor Apr 2017 #29

You may have misunderstood my point. I said that trolls are attracted to the topic. yardwork Apr 2017 #32

thanks for the link i just did the same and WOW WOW WOW. piece and quiet. stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #52

I'm seeing threads on various topics I never saw before. It's great. yardwork Apr 2017 #56

That's good for me and you but trolls poisoning DU for new users sharedvalues Apr 2017 #77

That is a huge problem, I agree. yardwork Apr 2017 #80

I trashed the topic too, but "my" troll seems to want to get around that so he used a Squinch Apr 2017 #41

Fortunately, it's very easy to trash single threads. yardwork Apr 2017 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Apr 2017 #51

K&R... spanone Apr 2017 #11

How do we tell the difference between a troll and someone with a different view? Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #12

You're not supposed to ask that question. MadDAsHell Apr 2017 #18

How do I post my progressive Democrat views without being considered a troll? Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #20

Is your purpose to disrupt? If not there shouldn't be a problem. Squinch Apr 2017 #43

I doubt anyone would consider you a troll, EM. JudyM Apr 2017 #59

You aren't a troll. Your posts are never flamebait. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #67

Well, no. I think I was clearly suggesting that each of us ignore the single poster who Squinch Apr 2017 #45

Trolls only post flaimbait. Sole purpose is to get us at each other's throats. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #68

Donald Trump is the greatest threat the planet and humanity has ever faced. gordianot Apr 2017 #13

To be honest I would not object if Skinner and the DU mods took a permanent ban hammer cstanleytech Apr 2017 #14

Trouble is, the trolls sign up under another user name meow2u3 Apr 2017 #16

Aye I know that is a huge drawback so maybe what we need is a larger mirt team cstanleytech Apr 2017 #74

Who are these trolls? NobodyHere Apr 2017 #15

That would violate the rule against accusing other members of being trolls. nt tblue37 Apr 2017 #26

Oh, come on. Really? Squinch Apr 2017 #44

There's a question which usually doesn't come up. "Don't bait DU'ers" is good advice. Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #82

Where's the line between "trolling" and posting a dissenting opinion? NobodyHere Apr 2017 #95

+ 1 million. We must be better than this nt riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #17

I use multiple methods mvd Apr 2017 #19

Ignoring the trolls doesnt have to be perminent either. defacto7 Apr 2017 #22

The Republicans are in full panic mode. This is a good sign. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #23

That's true but I have all the info I need now. yardwork Apr 2017 #24

I think the timing of their shit-stirring is instructive too. There seems to be a real Squinch Apr 2017 #46

The new daily-major-distraction-event is now standard fair, and the media just keeps playing along. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #49

I love Laydeebug's posts here about "Don't let them control the narrative!" It is the key and Squinch Apr 2017 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Apr 2017 #97

How do you stop people from accusing you of being a troll just for sharing your opinion The99thTimeLord Apr 2017 #25

you have a point. Welcome to DU! Raster Apr 2017 #27

Another thing to be wary of here, the itchy trigger fingers on the word troll. Demit Apr 2017 #40

You can't make other people do anything. You can only control your own behavior. Squinch Apr 2017 #47

Don't post what trolls post maybe. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #50

Trolls post flamebait to put people at each other's throats. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #70

This all seems reasonable... Until you think about it. lies Apr 2017 #28

I may be wrong, but l think as long as we are wise enough to set Enoki33 Apr 2017 #35

The problem with that is... lies Apr 2017 #53

There has never really been agreement at the local level about what the Democratic Party Squinch Apr 2017 #58

Completely agree with you, except as to the matters that bring out aggressive attacks. JudyM Apr 2017 #61

Some of us have already stopped responding radical noodle Apr 2017 #30

I have to admit, sometimes I take the bait. I even do it when I KNOW that guy who started the Squinch Apr 2017 #48

It's chocolate to me but radical noodle Apr 2017 #66

About 90% of the time, I don't take the bait ms liberty Apr 2017 #31

Alt-right going after Maddow. They are sweating bullets over poor Trumpkin's new corruption scandal L. Coyote Apr 2017 #36

Great idea! Me, I just don't read their stuff, much less reply to it. Mister Ed Apr 2017 #37

You seem to see the two camps as either Hillary supporters or Bernie supporters. Demit Apr 2017 #38

You're missing my point. My point is for YOU to determine what YOUR definition of a troll is. Squinch Apr 2017 #55

I didn't miss your point about there being a Hillary camp and a Bernie camp. Demit Apr 2017 #62

Well, good for you! Squinch Apr 2017 #65

I ignore the ignore button. I can't agree with your suggestion. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #42

One ignored poster does not an echo-chamber make. But YMMV. Squinch Apr 2017 #75

I have used it a lot, but not on everyone with a different opinion mvd Apr 2017 #76

K and r. cwydro Apr 2017 #57

I ignore it MFM008 Apr 2017 #60

Great topic, Squinch.. Permanut Apr 2017 #63

Along with what you have said, I believe that Russian TROLLS have been visiting this TheDebbieDee Apr 2017 #64

Given what we have learned about the extent of Putin's efforts to undermine the election, and Squinch Apr 2017 #69

Oh, I know there are Russian trolls here - I can't PROVE it, but I know it! TheDebbieDee Apr 2017 #72

Lol. Great reply. Squinch Apr 2017 #73

So many juicy right wing dRumpf targets, no need for intramurals. nT Mc Mike Apr 2017 #71

Exactly. We need to put our efforts elsewhere. For you know, like, the survival of democracy and Squinch Apr 2017 #79

I don't use the ignore function. But my answer is, I stopped taking DU too seriously a long time ago Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #78

yep you nailed it steve2470 Apr 2017 #86

So glad to have found this thread! Worktodo Apr 2017 #81

Don't give up on us! I had actually previously done the trash keyword thing and it worked Squinch Apr 2017 #83

My ignore madokie Apr 2017 #84

I have to say, I only have two names on mine. One is "my" troll who I put on only a few Squinch Apr 2017 #85

You seem to have missed the Obama years madokie Apr 2017 #87

Joined in 2012. Hey! I just noticed! My 5 year anniversary was last month. THAT went fast! Squinch Apr 2017 #89

Time flies madokie Apr 2017 #90

To you too. Happy Sunday. Squinch Apr 2017 #91

Are you calling Obama "the anointed one"? betsuni Apr 2017 #93

When I see my favorite DUers savaged for years by trolls and they fight back a little, betsuni Apr 2017 #88

good ideas - all peasant one Apr 2017 #92

Vote Democratic Squinch Cary Apr 2017 #94