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chervilant

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173. Wow...

Tue Jul 3, 2012, 09:22 AM

Jul 2012

Do you honestly think DUers 'by and large' support this assertion?

This is primarily a "centrist" board; people here, by and large, SUPPORT unlimited free-trade.

Most people only demand protections for their own professions and livelihoods. Hence the pro-Toyota, anti-H1B brigade here is legion. As are the pro-Teachers' Union, anti-UAW brigade.

Most of the responses to your post quoted hereinabove are negative. And, personally, I find your post offensive and insupportable.

You might consider taking a break, then rereading your exchange with HiPointDem. IMHO, you come across as defensive, accusatory, and condescending (for example, your frequent use of the

emoticon).

BTW, I am a teacher and I am pro-Union--ALL unions. I do not support unlimited free trade. AND, I know that I am in good company on this site.

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No traction on DU for TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership)? This is a FIVE ALARM EMERGENCY, people... [View all] HomerRamone Jul 2012 OP

Every time TPP is mentioned....the posts drop like stones off to archives. KoKo Jul 2012 #1

And, yet, chervilant Jul 2012 #15

Any ideas as to why whathehell Jul 2012 #108

Yes, He is a third way Democrat and uses third way policy as his starting point in negotiations Dragonfli Jul 2012 #123

Thanks, Dragonfli whathehell Jul 2012 #125

Quite a bit of the language is OUT OF NAFTA nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #139

I'm not surprised...Disappointed, but not surprised. whathehell Jul 2012 #167

It's right up their alley, they are a corporate driven think tank after all. Dragonfli Jul 2012 #156

Obama's position on this chervilant Jul 2012 #164

I know.. whathehell Jul 2012 #166

Well, chervilant Jul 2012 #180

Thanks. I'll watch the film again, and see what I can glean from it. n/t whathehell Jul 2012 #189

If the poster cannot, at least once, type out completely what TPP means I'll not waste my time xtraxritical Jul 2012 #24

That'll show him! HomerRamone Jul 2012 #27

The TPP "Trans-Pacific Partnership" is Gonna Further FUCK U.S. Workers. STEP UP!!! NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #36

wow stockholmer Jul 2012 #144

I get annoyed with acronyms also, but can usually figure out WTF by reading the thread, so what's lonestarnot Jul 2012 #151

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #31

especially when folks like yourself throw in the towel from the get-go. and other folks are more HiPointDem Jul 2012 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #72

I don't have a towel on my own, you're right. Organized i have a towel. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #75

regardless, organized people have a towel. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #82

I can't resist HomerRamone Jul 2012 #101

I take this back earlier. Nixon era. freshwest Jul 2012 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #74

Here's a sad corollary: chervilant Jul 2012 #168

INFO- Huey P. Long Jul 2012 #68

OMG...sounds like the final step in a plan for corporate world domination. whathehell Jul 2012 #107

MORE- Huey P. Long Jul 2012 #112

OMG...This is scary.. whathehell Jul 2012 #117

I didn't realize he'd come out for the GMO's... KoKo Jul 2012 #127

You mean you fell for that cheap PR nonsense? Huey P. Long Jul 2012 #132

yep...The BIG SHOW... KoKo Jul 2012 #204

thank you so much for keeping the spotlight on the oligarchs and their puppets in power stockholmer Jul 2012 #145

I think you may have actually been directing this to another poster. whathehell Jul 2012 #169

ah, you are correct, but hello anyway!!! stockholmer Jul 2012 #185

Yes, indeed...Back at ya! whathehell Jul 2012 #188

The Trans Pacific Partnership – A Corporate Fascist Coup Huey P. Long Jul 2012 #205

You people are most welcome, but the task is to get the idiot followers to wake up. Huey P. Long Jul 2012 #182

THank you EverHopeful Jul 2012 #114

I forgot to say: "Thanks" for all this good info, Huey. whathehell Jul 2012 #124

Thanks, Huey...hope concerned folks here will read your info. KoKo Jul 2012 #126

big ups for the links Huey stockholmer Jul 2012 #146

thank you so much for keeping the spotlight on the oligarchs and their puppets in power stockholmer Jul 2012 #186

I think it is because a lot of people don't understand it Taverner Jul 2012 #110

You're right. You really do have to read the whole thing pscot Jul 2012 #2

"launched ... by the George W. Bush administration". That's a red flag right there. eppur_se_muova Jul 2012 #18

All for Naught ... dtom67 Jul 2012 #52

+1. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #60

+1000 nt Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #147

Thank you, agreed, K&R'd! E.g., snot Jul 2012 #3

I'll reply to give this a kick... ohheckyeah Jul 2012 #4

More light, more light. Scuba Jul 2012 #5

K&R Brickbat Jul 2012 #6

All part of the planned transition to Corporate State Rule. bluedigger Jul 2012 #7

Scary. ananda Jul 2012 #9

You are right about that.. whathehell Jul 2012 #118

And with Corporate State Rule, we get Corporate State War. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #11

Many cities are closing the libraries BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #16

hmm... chervilant Jul 2012 #17

Control of information and its dissemination? Never! siligut Jul 2012 #23

Just repeating history (dial-up warning, large pic): freshwest Jul 2012 #109

JD, have you noticed that certain frequent posters are totally absent from this thread? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #115

hmm... chervilant Jul 2012 #172

Probably they have to be debugged before rebooting kenny blankenship Jul 2012 #179

Onward to a regine of binding global governance... sad sally Jul 2012 #105

K&R, n/t. appal_jack Jul 2012 #8

I need to study this more. nm rhett o rick Jul 2012 #10

It's very alarming...but, there's no way of stopping it. KoKo Jul 2012 #20

We HAVE to! nt HomerRamone Jul 2012 #22

Both parties are for it and the President is pushing it. Where would push back come from? KoKo Jul 2012 #40

+1 HiPointDem Jul 2012 #58

So you ADMIT it's bipartisan MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #111

You drive me nuts. rhett o rick Jul 2012 #116

I drive myself nuts MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #120

Hey on the bright side nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #140

That's different MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #141

You want my notes? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #136

Thanks. I will take a rain check. I am not sure my psyche can handle it. rhett o rick Jul 2012 #142

From the interview... livvy Jul 2012 #12

kick for the evening shift GeorgeGist Jul 2012 #13

I guess the bolder moves are harder to grok caraher Jul 2012 #14

This T-Peepee will put an end to farmer's markets. fasttense Jul 2012 #19

China could bring a lawsuit to a group of unelected corporate lawyers called the Tribunal Leopolds Ghost Jul 2012 #174

Nations are now required to obey the mandates of global corporations. TahitiNut Jul 2012 #21

How many centuries has it been this way, really? They just didn't call them corporations, is all. freshwest Jul 2012 #69

And according to the leak on this, they write the laws and merely distribute them sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #71

This is scary stuff. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #25

More evidence Obama is not a liberal lark Jul 2012 #26

Heartbreaking. tblue Jul 2012 #29

You got that Right! Plucketeer Jul 2012 #30

We are screwed Remember Jul 2012 #34

It was obvious to me, the first time I ever heard Obama speak in the Presidential primaries, that... Larry Ogg Jul 2012 #56

It's all scientifically managed Leopolds Ghost Jul 2012 #175

You are absolutely right it's managed. Larry Ogg Jul 2012 #200

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #79

We have to make Obama stop it!!! tblue Jul 2012 #28

This is why we progressives just can't seem to make any progress. Speck Tater Jul 2012 #32

I don't have time to make every subject line perfect HomerRamone Jul 2012 #35

you've had time to defend the title...twice magical thyme Jul 2012 #41

all right I'm out of here too HomerRamone Jul 2012 #45

Awww come on...you didn't have time to read the article so it's the poster's fault? KoKo Jul 2012 #48

As many post as there being made on DU... Speck Tater Jul 2012 #63

I never said I had no time to read the article magical thyme Jul 2012 #64

The OP gave a good lead in for you to read the article. Quote from OP KoKo Jul 2012 #47

Is there ANY congressional pushback? k and r bbgrunt Jul 2012 #33

Wrote to my Senator, Bill Nelson-D, FL and this is what I got back. hay rick Jul 2012 #46

Thats more than I got from Ben Nelson (D) Nebraska newfie11 Jul 2012 #158

Facebooked, tweeted, shared, bookmarked ProfessionalLeftist Jul 2012 #37

Traction is acquired by attracting DU-ers to the Subject. You need to help. TPP is what? patrice Jul 2012 #38

I did not post about this before--it's not my posts that didn't get traction HomerRamone Jul 2012 #43

Excellent video here: hay rick Jul 2012 #39

Thanks....hopefully some here who wondered about TPP will watch it. KoKo Jul 2012 #42

Seder did a great job with this interview. nashville_brook Jul 2012 #128

kick for later n/t hootinholler Jul 2012 #44

You are correct. I suspect if a Republican was president this board would be on fire sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #49

This is primarily a "centrist" board; people here, by and large, SUPPORT unlimited free-trade. Romulox Jul 2012 #50

Obama Administration Expands Controversial Trade Deal (TPP) after Damaging Revelations KoKo Jul 2012 #53

This is nothing short of the controlled demolition of the American nation. Kaleko Jul 2012 #153

the pro-teacher anti-uaw brigade? could you point out an example? cause i think you made it up. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #66

I wish that I was making it up. No idea why you're leveling an angry accusation, however. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #76

i'm not angry. i just don't believe there's a 'brigade' of teachers who supports their own union HiPointDem Jul 2012 #81

There's several. Quit badgering me into a call-out and search the board yourself. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #85

i am a strong participant in pro-teacher threads & have never seen anything like that. thus i ask HiPointDem Jul 2012 #86

By the same token, I've never seen you speak up in favor of unionized autoworkers. Romulox Jul 2012 #87

you've missed my posts, then. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #89

I don't read even a fraction of the posts here, so I wouldn't presume to suggest someone is lying Romulox Jul 2012 #90

i didn't. i said you missed my posts, and linked some of them. please stop accusing me of things HiPointDem Jul 2012 #91

You said "i think you made it up" (post #66.) I'm done with this song and dance routine. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #92

perhaps you could have linked evidence for your claim, as i did when you said you'd never HiPointDem Jul 2012 #94

There's been no "lie", just sloppy accusations from you. Your hostility is mindless. Romulox Jul 2012 #98

i asked you to link a thread, not name names. you can't. because threads where teachers HiPointDem Jul 2012 #100

I have one thread that sticks in my craw open right now (DU2). To link to it would be a call out in Romulox Jul 2012 #102

Anyhow, I'm done with you. You call me a liar in #66, and forget about it by #91. Romulox Jul 2012 #103

no, i said i thought you made it up. i still do, as you offer no evidence. your display of injured HiPointDem Jul 2012 #149

That is a PATHETIC walk-back. You are floundering. Romulox Jul 2012 #161

lol. sure rommy. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #191

Indeed. In your month and a half here you have become an absolute moral authority on this site Romulox Jul 2012 #193

PS: "i must PERFORCE believe it doesn't exist"??? Romulox Jul 2012 #93

not sure what your problem is with the word. "Adverb used to express necessity/inevitability" HiPointDem Jul 2012 #97

You're hiding behind bluster and pretense to try to cover up your basic mistake of forgetting your Romulox Jul 2012 #99

i still think you made it up. you're hiding behind bluster to avoid posting evidence supporting HiPointDem Jul 2012 #150

You've descended into self-parody. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #160

Wow... chervilant Jul 2012 #173

Check out the SUV post kicking around the front page. The love for non-union labor flows there. Romulox Jul 2012 #192

Yeah, sure... chervilant Jul 2012 #194

not true. not at all true. nashville_brook Jul 2012 #129

Check out the SUV post on the front page for all the Honda, Subaru, Hyundai (all NON UNION!) Romulox Jul 2012 #162

Thank you. K&R and Shared. patrice Jul 2012 #51

K R rosesaylavee Jul 2012 #54

K&R (nm) Elwood P Dowd Jul 2012 #55

We had this fight here in 1999, in every country. More globalization crap. freshwest Jul 2012 #57

+1 KoKo Jul 2012 #67

K&R! nt whatchamacallit Jul 2012 #61

Why do you want Mitt Romney to be president? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #62

Shoot, this will likely have "minimal" impact on workers--just like NAFTA! Er, right, Manny??? Romulox Jul 2012 #78

Are you attempting to quote something that I wrote? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #121

(Third Way?) Manny: "NAFTA caused a modest drop in the incomes low-skilled-workers". nt Romulox Jul 2012 #133

Do you disagree with that? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #134

Manny, it was a MASSIVE gaffe by you. Your refusal to move on shows you are COMMITTED to it. Romulox Jul 2012 #163

I never, never, ever, defended NAFTA. Not ever. Never. MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #197

+1 Nice nauseating recap nt whatchamacallit Jul 2012 #80

Well you're third-way Manny, so of course you want to keep all of this secret. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #152

I don't get how a small agency can do this magical thyme Jul 2012 #65

kick AzDar Jul 2012 #77

Time to put this in the spotlight... TeamPooka Jul 2012 #83

The posts sink because we have tons of "free traders" and more that will support TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #84

Actually there is starting to be a small time revolt within the D's nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #137

thank you very much Enrique Jul 2012 #88

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2012 #95

Seems TPP is an embarrassment during "campaign season." hay rick Jul 2012 #96

K&R and bkmrkd. thanks for the link. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #104

I think the administration should at least be able to speak its piece. Blanks Jul 2012 #106

k&r nt steve2470 Jul 2012 #113

Sounds like a Libertarian wet dream. joshcryer Jul 2012 #119

Thank you for posting this. EverHopeful Jul 2012 #122

+1...for your links for efforts to stop it.. KoKo Jul 2012 #130

Some previous threads on TPP. proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #131

Hey just sent the article to editor nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #135

Nadin..Check out new Nation Article: "Nafta on Steroids" (Why don't we know about it) KoKo Jul 2012 #165

I'll answer this, promise nott to be too shocked nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #183

Kick/rec bonzotex Jul 2012 #138

Here's the job-transferring free-trade agreements that have been signed so far: AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #178

Here's a petition to sign "to make trade policies work for working families"... pacalo Jul 2012 #143

Signed..Thanks. n/t whathehell Jul 2012 #154

K&R AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #148

Sons of bitches! lonestarnot Jul 2012 #155

Was not aware of this. Found more info on Democracy Now suffragette Jul 2012 #157

Thanks for link...worth the watch.. n/t KoKo Jul 2012 #159

You know this one stinks to high heaven and back TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #170

This is interesting, sulphurdunn Jul 2012 #171

That's a good question. And it seems few are interested in answering. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #181

To the extent government sulphurdunn Jul 2012 #198

+1 KoKo Jul 2012 #201

Oh he's just rope-a-doping them, dude kenny blankenship Jul 2012 #176

You may be right about the general absence of "traction on DU for TPP." It may be due, in part, to AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #177

Well...you can't get much more "Bi-Partisan" than this...can you? KoKo Jul 2012 #187

It's much more than another jobs-killing "free-trade" agreement. hay rick Jul 2012 #190

Thanks for posting. Wind Dancer Jul 2012 #184

Hugely important info here. Kaleko Jul 2012 #195

. Huey P. Long Jul 2012 #196

Here local nooz story nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #199

Bernie Sanders is against it. That's good enough for me! n/t krispos42 Jul 2012 #202

k&r nt rbnyc Jul 2012 #203

kicking BrendaBrick Aug 2012 #206