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22. While this is true, Sanders is proof that times have changed

Reply to Lotusflower70 (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 22, 2017, 06:06 PM

Apr 2017

and people don't think it's the dirty word it used to be. Crony capitalism I think has played a huge role in that.

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How many DUers would vote for a Democratic Socialist? [View all] kentuck Apr 2017 OP

I would vote for a social democrat JHan Apr 2017 #1

Me too. n/t MicaelS Apr 2017 #5

I really think the Scandinavians have it best.. JHan Apr 2017 #10

Again, I agree. MicaelS Apr 2017 #18

yep ++++ JHan Apr 2017 #20

Yes, that seemed to work very well for the social Republicans. kentuck Apr 2017 #6

The model I describe is the Scandinavian model. JHan Apr 2017 #8

So, that means we need to change..? kentuck Apr 2017 #16

within our framework. JHan Apr 2017 #19

now seeing your edit: JHan Apr 2017 #25

A very important distinction. One describes the DEMOCRAT, and the other describes the SOCIALIST. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #14

just for clarity... Is mello a Democrat, cuz there's a lot of bad feeling going around about JCanete Apr 2017 #53

LOL NurseJackie Apr 2017 #54

oops, didn't mean to stump you...actually it wasn't a gotcha, but if you are going to make such JCanete Apr 2017 #93

post delete...wrong place JCanete Apr 2017 #92

You broke into my head GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #35

Ditto, & second that onetexan Apr 2017 #41

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #48

Do some reading, and no I was not referencing a certain former nominee. JHan Apr 2017 #49

Socialists don't believe means of production should be controlled by government Kentonio Apr 2017 #59

this lays out the difference. JHan Apr 2017 #61

There is no difference between a Social Democrat and a Democratic Socialist. kentuck Apr 2017 #62

Btw just edited my comment to explain it a little better. JHan Apr 2017 #64

There is nothing "democratic" about such governments. kentuck Apr 2017 #65

I still think we need to get the taxonomy correct.. JHan Apr 2017 #66

That definition isn't very good IMO. kristopher Apr 2017 #80

I would Lotusflower70 Apr 2017 #2

While this is true, Sanders is proof that times have changed DemocraticSocialist8 Apr 2017 #22

That isn't proved at all. Polling is relatively unchanged in the last 30 years. stevenleser Apr 2017 #30

Where's your data for that, please? JudyM Apr 2017 #47

See my post #69 below and those 4 links are a small sample stevenleser Apr 2017 #70

Whopper truthaddict247 Apr 2017 #51

Hilarious that you claim that. I had been quoting stats throughout the last two years stevenleser Apr 2017 #69

Your 2nd link is dead, and all this is from a year ago. It'd be interesting to see something current JudyM Apr 2017 #72

Fixed the second link. And those polls are better than current. stevenleser Apr 2017 #74

I doubt it has gone down. People's eyes are a bit more open since 1/21 plus last year's 17 year olds JudyM Apr 2017 #77

Their eyes went in the opposite direction towards the extreme right. stevenleser Apr 2017 #78

Conjecture. We'll find out whenever new polls come out. JudyM Apr 2017 #79

Not conjecture. We have the election results. That's data. nt stevenleser Apr 2017 #81

I don't agree when all was said and done. Sen. Sanders was not the candidate. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #57

The country is currently based on a two party system. Third party's are spoilers. Until that still_one Apr 2017 #3

I'd vote 4 a goat before a republican. Cattledog Apr 2017 #4

So's the blue lint between your toes when you take your socks off Warpy Apr 2017 #9

I voted Socialist Workers Party back in Boston Warpy Apr 2017 #7

Me Hayduke Bomgarte Apr 2017 #11

Me. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #12

Wish I could have... BUT NO ghostsinthemachine Apr 2017 #13

No one ideology is going to "save" the US Thomas Hurt Apr 2017 #15

Thoughtful. kentuck Apr 2017 #17

Spot on.... paleotn Apr 2017 #43

Yes, except I don't believe he thinks (much ever, but ...) he's moonscape Apr 2017 #75

You see my name? LOL DemocraticSocialist8 Apr 2017 #21

i will never vote for a Republican i dont care if we are running daffy duck as a dem...however... samnsara Apr 2017 #23

In a NY minute sellitman Apr 2017 #24

Hell, yeah! Kath2 Apr 2017 #26

plus one demigoddess Apr 2017 #28

Birth control and abortion are health care. Kath2 Apr 2017 #33

sorry, at my age, they are separate demigoddess Apr 2017 #50

It would be a very rare situation where I would not vote for a Democrat cheapdate Apr 2017 #27

Only if there were no Democrat in the race Steven Maurer Apr 2017 #29

I'd vote for a dead dog if it were running against a Republican, so maybe I'm not a good standard. WinkyDink Apr 2017 #31

I do not vote for 3rd party candidates in a 2 party system. Period. Hekate Apr 2017 #32

How many DUers would vote for a Democratic Socialist? I already did. Iggo Apr 2017 #34

Me Break time Apr 2017 #36

If that person ran in the primaries and won the MineralMan Apr 2017 #37

How many DUers think you can fit people into simplistic two-word castegories? L. Coyote Apr 2017 #38

In the eye of the beholder.... MedusaX Apr 2017 #39

+1000 paleotn Apr 2017 #44

I agree Medusa. Thank you saidsimplesimon Apr 2017 #83

I would IF BainsBane Apr 2017 #40

Me and my entire family onecaliberal Apr 2017 #42

I would vote for a dog turd before a republicant Union Label Apr 2017 #45

It depends... paleotn Apr 2017 #46

Of course, if they were committed to bringing in a diverse coalition. Starry Messenger Apr 2017 #52

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #55

I would not vote for an independent Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #56

If general election maybe for local, if Democratic Party nominee otherwise, yes. we can do it Apr 2017 #58

I'm more interested in record and stances than labels. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #60

Yes of course Dem2 Apr 2017 #63

If they're the right Independent, sure. moriah Apr 2017 #67

It would depend. Most likely no. stevenleser Apr 2017 #68

Interesting... kentuck Apr 2017 #71

If someone like Bernie gets nominated or wins an election, I will occupy the space that stevenleser Apr 2017 #73

Not that it matters, but why should I believe you? ret5hd Apr 2017 #84

Who are you that I should care whether you believe me or not? nt stevenleser Apr 2017 #85

Absolutely nobody. Who are you? ret5hd Apr 2017 #86

I don't disagree with you. nt stevenleser Apr 2017 #87

Ahhh yes...but the real question is "Do you drink with me?" ret5hd Apr 2017 #89

Yes! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #76

Obviously I would mvd Apr 2017 #82

I've done so several times malaise Apr 2017 #88

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #90

Always and gladly. alarimer Apr 2017 #91