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George II

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38. Were those 1000 seats lost to candidates that were further left than their Democratic opponents....

Reply to panader0 (Reply #31)

Sat Apr 22, 2017, 06:19 PM

Apr 2017

...or further right than their Democratic opponents?

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It's not about Bernie. It's about the way he wants to change the party. [View all] DanTex Apr 2017 OP

Don't we have enough Bernie posts? Active measures much? Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #1

This post is not about Bernie. It's about the way he wants to change the party. DanTex Apr 2017 #2

Bernie can start by becoming a democrat... Blanks Apr 2017 #33

Why? Magoo48 Apr 2017 #74

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #46

Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party. kstewart33 Apr 2017 #47

There must be some REAL MAGIC Plucketeer Apr 2017 #72

Really makes you wonder about the intentions of these posters. panader0 Apr 2017 #4

Doubt DanTex is a GOP troll. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #10

Agree with you. panader0 Apr 2017 #14

Agreed. Focus on what YOU want to do to HELP sharedvalues Apr 2017 #39

Yes. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #86

Yup. It's more than coincidence. Everyone suddenly on the bandwagon. Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #15

the enemy is the republican party Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #19

Remind Bernie of that, please... NT Adrahil Apr 2017 #25

The intention is that he's a Democrat who's supporting the base of the Democratic party -- pnwmom Apr 2017 #61

Well Dan has been a member since 2002 Chevy Apr 2017 #7

And he posts at least one Bernie post a day sharedvalues Apr 2017 #37

I see Bernie offering mostly criticism of the Dems. It isn't fair to expect us pnwmom Apr 2017 #59

Maybe if the Senator Chevy Apr 2017 #60

Now that DanTex has weighed in, maybe so. He said something that needed to be said pnwmom Apr 2017 #56

you did a much better job than I did trying to say the same thing dsc Apr 2017 #3

If it's not about Bernie, they why mention him? Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #5

Because he is leading the charge to transform the party in a economic-over-social manner. DanTex Apr 2017 #6

Dan, what exactly is he doing? kstewart33 Apr 2017 #53

because he is the leader of the faction of the party which wants this change dsc Apr 2017 #8

That wouldn't have the desired effect. QC Apr 2017 #29

Kind of my point. Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #42

Excellent post! athena Apr 2017 #9

Now you're complaining about "change." Warpy Apr 2017 #11

Change can be either good or bad. DanTex Apr 2017 #17

Splitting a large segment of the party off by continued harassment Warpy Apr 2017 #52

Sorry we will not accept change that sacrifices rights for women and POC. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #88

Now THAT is part of the change I'm hoping for Warpy Apr 2017 #91

No we disagree on that. I would always vote for the Democrat. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #93

I look at the race Warpy Apr 2017 #94

The Republican would be way more likely to harass women. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #95

I think she's prochoice. Warpy Apr 2017 #98

Hmmm...I still would vote for the Dem...Republicans are bad about school, Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #104

I would not vote Republican Warpy Apr 2017 #105

We support positive change; we don't support negative change delisen Apr 2017 #101

Well, duh Warpy Apr 2017 #103

Should he, or should he not support democrats running for office? killbotfactory Apr 2017 #12

I would vote for the guy if I lived in his city. Always vote for the Democrat. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #89

Great post. But I give not one shit what Bernie says about the Democratic Party until... LuvLoogie Apr 2017 #13

Bingo. nt kstewart33 Apr 2017 #49

The Democratic Party purports to be the "party of the people" alarimer Apr 2017 #16

Sorry...that is nonsense...the only progressive achievements are provided by the Democratic Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #90

I think you are wrong. PufPuf23 Apr 2017 #18

No, he is not "100% committed" to social issues. DanTex Apr 2017 #22

It should send up all sorts of red flags Skidmore Apr 2017 #35

Very good point Chevy Apr 2017 #70

Shame on her. Cha Apr 2017 #83

The social justice "tradeoffs" you attribute for Sanders are one or more steps PufPuf23 Apr 2017 #36

Bulloney.. don't try to cover for him.. it's not working. Cha Apr 2017 #99

Why does it have to be one or the other?? kentuck Apr 2017 #20

Yeah, economic issues are social issues and vice versa TexasBushwhacker Apr 2017 #100

DanTex, don't we have enough Bernie posts? sharedvalues Apr 2017 #21

Bernie, in his own words, has called for a "fundamental transformation" of the D party. DanTex Apr 2017 #23

Sorry, but as long as Bernie keeps saying things that aren't right, pnwmom Apr 2017 #63

BS is Always on tv harranguing on the Democratic Cha Apr 2017 #96

It's not about Bernie....but here's a bunch of ways it's about Berine melman Apr 2017 #24

Good post Highway61 Apr 2017 #26

We can see how establishment Democrats have done with elections lately. Darkhawk32 Apr 2017 #28

Right? Highway61 Apr 2017 #30

Well, at least they're Democrats. kstewart33 Apr 2017 #50

I'm curious - where have "non-establishment" Democrats won where "establishment" ones have not? Steven Maurer Apr 2017 #62

good point, mostly what I've seen is shit talking uponit7771 Apr 2017 #79

said the GOP and the Russians uponit7771 Apr 2017 #78

"Establishment".. that tired ol fucking buzzword that Cha Apr 2017 #97

What if the majority of members of the Democratic Party do not want to change it? George II Apr 2017 #27

Well, in the last 8 years, the Democratic party has lost about 1000 seats panader0 Apr 2017 #31

Were those 1000 seats lost to candidates that were further left than their Democratic opponents.... George II Apr 2017 #38

To Republicans. panader0 Apr 2017 #40

Thanks but that doesn't answer the question. George II Apr 2017 #41

I seriously doubt that any Republican would be further left than a Democrat. panader0 Apr 2017 #45

That's my point. We lost those 1000 seats to candidates that were further right than our.... George II Apr 2017 #54

Yes -- because if the voters have a choice between a Republican and a Nay Apr 2017 #87

The party stopped drifting right sometime between 2000 and 2008. DanTex Apr 2017 #48

Gerrymandering won't be solved by electing Bernie wannabes. Those red districts pnwmom Apr 2017 #64

Down with single payer! Down with tax funded college tuitions n!!! Lucky Luciano Apr 2017 #34

Krystal Ball Certainly Did Try To Push That Agends (Along With Her Book) Me. Apr 2017 #32

I found her highly obnoxious in her appearance this morning, and thoroughly enjoyed... George II Apr 2017 #43

Am In Total Me. Apr 2017 #51

Thanks for the report from tvland, Me.. Cha Apr 2017 #84

Women's reproductive health and lives are not mere "social issues." That is Tea Party thinking. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #44

The new and successful Democratic Party is safeinOhio Apr 2017 #55

Let's stop the Bernie bashing left-of-center2012 Apr 2017 #57

When is he going to stop bashing Democrats? n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #65

He's supporting a Democrat, backed by the state and national party killbotfactory Apr 2017 #71

He was dismissive of another progressive's bona fides, saying that not all Democrats pnwmom Apr 2017 #73

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Nt killbotfactory Apr 2017 #75

He was criticized for endorsing the anti-abortion guy but being dismissive of a progressive.. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #76

Stop trying to deflect with accusations of "bashing" Cha Apr 2017 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #58

It is not suspicious at all. It's a natural result of his bashing the Democratic party. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #66

There has been more progress on social issues than economic issues elias7 Apr 2017 #67

And ALL that progress is in jeopardy. And for black people, they have made less progress pnwmom Apr 2017 #69

Agreed. elias7 Apr 2017 #80

actually legally there hasn't been all that much on LGBT issues dsc Apr 2017 #77

I see much more social acceptance of groups that have been reviled/marginalized elias7 Apr 2017 #81

I don't deny that LGBT have made social progress dsc Apr 2017 #82

Dantex says that Krystak Ball says ... Must be true then aikoaiko Apr 2017 #68

It seems there is one thing you can count on with the Democratic Party: division. Vinca Apr 2017 #92

What did he actually say in the speech today? Is there a link? Ken Burch Apr 2017 #102

K&R Gothmog Apr 2017 #106