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Warpy

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48. Expect men to fight it tooth and nail

Sat Apr 22, 2017, 08:33 PM

Apr 2017

Damn women already get 12 weeks unpaid leave. Shit, they'd love to take 12 weeks unpaid leave every few years, just get a damn rest like them damn women.

Thinking about women's health and early infant development? Hell, they never think about those things, that's womeh's work. They just don't want to see them damn women get anything they can't get.

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A dinner conversation that's still bothering me. [View all] TygrBright Apr 2017 OP

Very difficult cross-currents in this culture. elleng Apr 2017 #1

'Cadian? It's no more idiosyncratic than many others. TygrBright Apr 2017 #2

U.S. 'culture' was what I meant. elleng Apr 2017 #3

ah, okay. Thanks. TygrBright Apr 2017 #4

I grew up eating frog legs in summer Warpy Apr 2017 #8

Wow... you just reminded me... TygrBright Apr 2017 #9

Interesting to link it to women needing to work sharedvalues Apr 2017 #42

It's what I saw. It's sort of the original wedge issue Warpy Apr 2017 #45

Europe gets child care and maternity leave right. HRC wanted to improve it too. sharedvalues Apr 2017 #47

Expect men to fight it tooth and nail Warpy Apr 2017 #48

I'm a man and I'm on-board - and I think you'll be surprised by this generation sharedvalues Apr 2017 #49

DU men are reasonably enlightened Warpy Apr 2017 #50

I see it really strongly in childcare and splitting duties sharedvalues Apr 2017 #53

I beg to differ somewhat. Stonepounder Apr 2017 #7

You have nailed it. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #15

Depends on the era - my grandpa was first generation born in the US nadine_mn Apr 2017 #20

My Grandma wasn't actually an immigrant, she was a Luz Apr 2017 #22

I simply do not know, Bright. Any 19th-early 20th century American novel, just about... Hekate Apr 2017 #5

My grandmother was loved by the Italian immigrants in her town treestar Apr 2017 #31

Interesting to link it to churches who say poverty is deserved sharedvalues Apr 2017 #43

You captured it perfectly wryter2000 Apr 2017 #6

I will tell you how this happened. An entire generation of Americans PatrickforO Apr 2017 #10

Right. It will take years of resistance to turn this around and dig ourselves out. elleng Apr 2017 #12

Excellent post world wide wally Apr 2017 #14

This is one of the best synopis that I have ever read of "how we got here". annabanana Apr 2017 #33

Remember how thoroughly she was excoriated for saying it? But it was thr truth. Hekate Apr 2017 #51

thank you for this well written expose. drray23 Apr 2017 #34

I did. You know, the better we can articulate this stuff, the more people PatrickforO Apr 2017 #35

Excellent, Patrick. I went for just one small slice. Hekate Apr 2017 #52

Well-put. Piketty "Capital in the 21st Century" is another good addition sharedvalues Apr 2017 #54

I believe everything changed with the presidency of Ronald Reagan - IndianaDave Apr 2017 #11

Yes. It was with Ronald Reagan that things to a sharp turn to the worse. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #17

Nice post concerning PATCO. PatrickforO Apr 2017 #37

+1 treestar Apr 2017 #32

Reagan was a traitor who should have been jailed on Iran hostages sharedvalues Apr 2017 #44

Ive been thinking about stuff like this lately and can only come to one conslusion world wide wally Apr 2017 #13

The American people didn't put Bush into office; the Supreme Court raccoon Apr 2017 #21

You have exactly identified the problem vlyons Apr 2017 #16

Here in Yerp DFW Apr 2017 #18

Yes, the US media is the problem. Well put. sharedvalues Apr 2017 #46

The white low income voters you're referencing PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #19

What a great thread this is! Silver Gaia Apr 2017 #23

Totally agree druidity33 Apr 2017 #24

I know what you mean. It reminds me of the hardening ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #25

Really nice post malaise Apr 2017 #26

Fox and other right wing media brainwashed people like your friend to become uncaring and cruel kimbutgar Apr 2017 #27

The Republican Anthem HopeAgain Apr 2017 #28

There's two really awesome books about how we can better frame PatrickforO Apr 2017 #38

Thanks! HopeAgain Apr 2017 #40

Your post does an excellent job of illuminating contrasting values and ethics. yardwork Apr 2017 #29

Just like our family in Wisconsin circa 1951-1969 jodymarie aimee Apr 2017 #30

Lmao retrowire Apr 2017 #36

I blame Ayn Rand. MicaelS Apr 2017 #39

Also seems like a self-obsessed distortion of Christianity, or Puritanism. JudyM Apr 2017 #41