Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

Showing Original Post only (View all)

TomCADem

(17,837 posts)
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 10:14 PM Apr 2017

A New Third Way/No Labels Movement - A Coalition Between Progressives and the Alt-Right? [View all]

On the left, you have Justice Democrats, Glenn Greenwald, the Young Turks, the Sane Progressive, Jill Stein and Ed Schultz. On the right, you have Breitbart, Michael Flynn, Donald Trump and Alex Jones. What do they have in common?

* A desire for better relations with Russia.
* A belief that U.S. elections are not legitimate and are rigged.
* Attacks on trade agreements as victimizing the U.S. economy.
* A resentment of "establishment" Democrats and Republicans who are only seeking to promote the interests of global elites.
* A belief in a conspiracy by a shadowy deep state that is working to promote the interests of global elites and seeking to promote a cold war with Russia.




The Alt-Right and Justice Democrats, for example, rail against the global financial powers and the corporate establishment. For example, sounding like a Justice Democrat, Trump repeatedly attacked Hillary Clinton of working for the "global elite" and bankers:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/us/politics/trump-comments-linked-to-antisemitism.html?_r=0

Donald J. Trump on Thursday accused Hillary Clinton of guiding a “global power structure” that has rigged the economy against the working class, language that some suggested echoed anti-Semitic themes.

Mr. Trump made the accusation in a speech in West Palm Beach, Fla., in which he also defended himself against several accusations of sexual harassment, published by The New York Times and others.

Early in the speech, he said that a global elite had “stripped” the United States of its wealth in order to line the pockets of corporate and political interests. “The Clinton machine is at the center of this power structure,” he said.

We’ve seen this firsthand in the WikiLeaks documents in which Hillary Clinton meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends and her donors,” he said, referring to the group that has, most recently, published thousands of hacked emails from Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman.


Indeed, the Alt-Right and Progressives sometimes share the same talking points as explained by Samantha Bee in her segment on the Deep State.



Even on issues where the left and right clearly disagree such as issues of race or sexism, you will have both the far left and alt-right agreeing that such issues are just identity politics that should be ignored in favor of an inward looking economic populism that promotes a U.S. withdrawal from international engagement.

My prediction is that as we approach the 2018 elections we will once again see the rise of both the Alt-Right and the Justice Democrats attacking "establishment" Democrats and Republicans as being essentially the same. Indeed, I have no doubt that on both the left and right, you will see a dramatic increase in online activity by folks pushing this alt-right/progressive view that largely overlaps on the issues referenced above.
43 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Yep. It has already happened. nikibatts Apr 2017 #1
Instead of a Coalition Between Moderate Dems/Repubs, We Have a Far Left/Right Coalition TomCADem Apr 2017 #4
Union of far left and right is how democracies destroy themselves. Hortensis Apr 2017 #18
thanks for this Tom. Great explanation of horse shoe theory at work. JHan Apr 2017 #2
I was just going to post about how I miss the Cold War days ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #3
Well, don't forget how Eisenhower was a commie plant, Hortensis Apr 2017 #21
Rain on my nostalgia parade! ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #40
Lol. Well, here comes le deluge: The right has redrawn Hortensis Apr 2017 #43
Dealing with the Devil FiveGoodMen Apr 2017 #5
Ugh, it won't stop. betsuni Apr 2017 #6
Ah yes.. there's the Pawn for putin now.. jill stein Cha Apr 2017 #7
Ed Schultz Chooses the Limelight over Principles TomCADem Apr 2017 #16
That's not true MountCleaners Apr 2017 #8
Actually it might be, and your first paragraph is countered by something we see right here on DU stevenleser Apr 2017 #23
Except no "progressive' who would willingly join the alt-right is a progressive. pnwmom Apr 2017 #9
Here is the "Sane Progressive" Attacking Democratic Primary as Rigged and Bernie... TomCADem Apr 2017 #12
Wow. I wonder if she's part of Putin's team. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #13
History lesson: More Republicans than Democrats supported NAFTA MountCleaners Apr 2017 #10
Here Is Ron Paul Agreeing with Trump's Attack on NAFTA. TomCADem Apr 2017 #24
Daily Kos on Democrats' opposition to trade deals MountCleaners Apr 2017 #11
The Alt-Right Are Supportive of Protectionist Measures as Opposed To Establishment Republicans TomCADem Apr 2017 #14
"I am a progressive who gets results and I will be a progressive president who gets results" Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #15
Who is to say? Ed Schultz and the "Sane Progressive" Self-Identify as Progressives TomCADem Apr 2017 #27
Sure, and Donald Trump calls himself a Patriot Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #28
The election of 1872 is an example of a similar confluence. renegade000 Apr 2017 #17
It's the Worm Ouroboros. The Snake That Eats Its Own Tail. MineralMan Apr 2017 #19
Putin has his minions supporting the far left and far right. He is destroying the center. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #20
I would add "Caucasian superiority" or anti-Semitism and xenophobia to the list... VOX Apr 2017 #22
This is fucking stupid. alarimer Apr 2017 #25
There just seems to be a lot of denial about in-room elephants. HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #33
Not Divisive. Recognizing Common Ground Between Anti-Establishment Activists TomCADem Apr 2017 #35
Oh for fuck's sake. LeftyMom Apr 2017 #26
Yeah, the "split the party" trolling gets dumber and dumber Warpy Apr 2017 #29
Split the Party? Who Is Saying That Any of These Folks Are Democrats? TomCADem Apr 2017 #37
I don't understand cutting off part of the party, either. Volstagg Apr 2017 #34
Sane Progressive - "A TY to the RIGHT Opposing Missile Strikes" TomCADem Apr 2017 #36
I don't know her enough to comment. Volstagg Apr 2017 #38
Also, This Is Not About the Democratic Party. This Is About Folks Attacking the Democratic Party... TomCADem Apr 2017 #39
COME on, y'all. HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #30
There are not enough progressive left to win an election. Come 2018 they will say like in 2014 wasupaloopa Apr 2017 #32
Most of those are entertainment commentators working for ratings. wasupaloopa Apr 2017 #31
Russian/right propaganda move, yes sharedvalues Apr 2017 #41
Would the mash up mercuryblues Apr 2017 #42
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»A New Third Way/No Labels...