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42. I have noticed on other sites a telltale sign
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:54 AM
Apr 2017

Not so much here, but I don't read anywhere near all posts on DU. But I often see posts on the New York Times or Washington Post letters page that are obvious Russians seeking to cause trouble.

Russian grammar has several conspicuous differences from English, and many Russians, even ones with good English, often make the same mistakes that reflect this. The two main differences are:

Russian has no word for "to be" in the present tense. "My house is red" in Russian comes out as "My house--red." A post with many sentences missing "is" or "are" could well be written by someone whose native language is Russian. That goes, of course, for native speakers of Russian who are NOT trolls, but the content will make it obvious.

Russian has no articles. No "the" or "a." A Russian starting to learn English would frame "The dog has a flea" as "Dog has flea." Articles are completely foreign to them, and they need a long time before they know when to insert them and when not to. A post containing many such omissions could also easily be by a native speaker of Russian. There are many other languages that don't have articles, either, including most non-Indo-European Asian languages, so this is not exclusive to Russian by any means. However, a combination of the two, plus close scrutiny of the content of a post, can often be a good indication of Russian "visitors."

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The trolls have been easy to spot Warpy Apr 2017 #1
"The problem is that we have a few high post count lemmings who seem determined to take up the Cha Apr 2017 #4
Not bull. Too many get wound up and lose sight of the big picture. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #12
Prove the personal attacks against our long time members. Cha Apr 2017 #24
Defiance of the party's core effort to "come together" JudyM Apr 2017 #44
That tells me nothing. Cha Apr 2017 #45
Really. Defiance of our party's agenda includes, of course, sowing reactionary division JudyM Apr 2017 #47
I think that all those threads praising Bernie to the stars are rather inflammatory. Vesper Apr 2017 #48
Reasonable and polite criticism would be fine. JudyM Apr 2017 #49
From what I've seen, these are not fine, they result in the same level of Vesper Apr 2017 #61
there are so many of them, after all ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #55
I know, but some people seem to enjoy posting a multiplicity of such inflammatory Vesper Apr 2017 #60
I'm almost back to pre-primary numbers in my ignore list. woodsprite Apr 2017 #17
I had weeded mine out for inactive members before this latest spate of trash Warpy Apr 2017 #53
Fwiw Putin trolls did not attack Bernie. Good article here: emulatorloo Apr 2017 #41
No, it was more subtle than a frontal assault Warpy Apr 2017 #52
Agreed. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #57
Yes. Drunken Irishman Apr 2017 #2
Maybe but... duncang Apr 2017 #3
Are you sure you can recognize it? flying-skeleton Apr 2017 #5
They have special powers that other people on here do not have. lol bathroommonkey76 Apr 2017 #59
Perhaps, but most of the dissension at DU is between long-time, long-participating, members. Gore1FL Apr 2017 #6
Troll technique is go early in a thread, trigger stuff & act as a catalyst. Then members Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #13
Yes thread hijacking is the trolls' favorite tactic FakeNoose Apr 2017 #30
If you think that this site will stop revenge against the perfidious MoonMen AngryAmish Apr 2017 #26
Whats going on here is nothing Chevy Apr 2017 #7
I've always felt pretty safe here, too Rhiannon12866 Apr 2017 #8
Yes democrank Apr 2017 #9
It makes me wonder ananda Apr 2017 #10
If you find a forum with Democrats all agreeing.... WePurrsevere Apr 2017 #11
I wasn't here for the primary. I came across DU when I downloaded Political Nation Left IndianaDave Apr 2017 #14
I think it was Benjamin Franklin who famously said WhiteTara Apr 2017 #43
I really do not care who is trolling. My feelings and opinions are my own and little can be nikibatts Apr 2017 #15
Agreed. The purpose of the troll is to disrupt. To prevent deserning voices Lint Head Apr 2017 #35
When we see it? madokie Apr 2017 #16
I feel the same way but I try not to engage until it becomes obvious. Lint Head Apr 2017 #36
I think it's perceiving vindication in defeat rather than anything terribly sinister Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2017 #18
You could well be right. Kentonio Apr 2017 #23
Yes. A bunch of them left for a while, but now they are back. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #19
+1 betsuni Apr 2017 #20
We have trolls here, yes. We've always had trolls and trollish behavior. ms liberty Apr 2017 #21
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Election night was a Rightmare. Ligyron Apr 2017 #29
Really like watching a train wreck in slow mo. Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #31
DU has high Google ratings and has gotten more press mentions... moriah Apr 2017 #32
They try to cause arguments and create negativity caroldansen Apr 2017 #27
Part of the Russian hack... Blanks Apr 2017 #28
Nyet. Orrex Apr 2017 #33
Trolls of all stripes are still here, no doubt... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #34
YAS!!! But we are stronger together, and they HATE us for that. nt LaydeeBug Apr 2017 #37
I still get what I need from DU lunatica Apr 2017 #38
True. I've been here long enough to see when something is out of place Lint Head Apr 2017 #39
I wasn't on this many juries even before the election. sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #40
Having done jury several times since the election, I've noticed an increase in alerts that make Lint Head Apr 2017 #51
I have noticed on other sites a telltale sign DFW Apr 2017 #42
Yes! I've noticed that myself. Sometimes it's knid o a broken nglish or broken text. Lint Head Apr 2017 #50
It doesn't have to be Russians. It could be: FSogol Apr 2017 #46
If they are tazkcmo Apr 2017 #54
Yes, absolutely. Shandris Apr 2017 #56
Thank you Shandris! Lint Head Apr 2017 #58
Da. No Textsky. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2017 #62
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