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HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
30. COME on, y'all.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 05:46 PM
Apr 2017

You want there to be a "horseshoe" where there is none.

Democrats lost 2016 because they never saw various red flags:

* The 2010 Congressional loss
* The 2012 Presidential election narrowing (Barack Obama won, but not as much over Romney as McCain)
* The 2014 Senate loss
* The Republicans taking over a majority of state legislatures
* The Republicans taking over a majority of governorships
* Questionable managing practices by Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, who seemed rather adamant about the insanity of thinking the milquetoast Clinton Blueprint is going to work each and every time.
* Denial of a groundswell receptive to the progressive message

Rather than re-evaluate why the milquetoast Clinton Blueprint did not work, you seem to want to blame this imagined powerful "progressive left" (and maliciously/hilariously equate them to the Alt-Klan) for why Hillary lost. The fact is, the message most all of us want and need to be attached to the Democratic party is that of the Second Bill of Rights . . . . a platform we can all agree would help EVERYone, especially in a time where the social safety net is going to need to be expanded in the face of winner-stomp-everyone Capitalism.

Most of America doesn't even LIKE Jill Stein, as a candidate or a person. She doesn't know shit about shit, and by lumping all progressives into the Stein side of the Venn, brushing them off as Putinist whackjobs no different than Milo Yiannopolus or Alex Jones, you're seriously shooting yourself in the foot when it comes to getting more votes. I don't think trying to get more moderates while decrying progressives as lost causes is the best of strategies.

If you lose the labor of this country because you want to fully keep wealthy Capitalists in power and not make things even one atom speck less comfortable for them, you have no one to blame but yourself. Young people of this country are starting to realize they have no path to retirement. X-ers and Seniors are starting to realize we're never going to get Universal Health care in this country (something the USA needed last DECADE). If we're nothing but a go-along-to-get-along party, just throw our hands up and say "Sorry, but that's just the way it is" . . . . DON'T BE SURPRISED WHEN YOU LOSE TO FUCKS LIKE SCHTROUMPF.

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Yep. It has already happened. nikibatts Apr 2017 #1
Instead of a Coalition Between Moderate Dems/Repubs, We Have a Far Left/Right Coalition TomCADem Apr 2017 #4
Union of far left and right is how democracies destroy themselves. Hortensis Apr 2017 #18
thanks for this Tom. Great explanation of horse shoe theory at work. JHan Apr 2017 #2
I was just going to post about how I miss the Cold War days ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #3
Well, don't forget how Eisenhower was a commie plant, Hortensis Apr 2017 #21
Rain on my nostalgia parade! ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #40
Lol. Well, here comes le deluge: The right has redrawn Hortensis Apr 2017 #43
Dealing with the Devil FiveGoodMen Apr 2017 #5
Ugh, it won't stop. betsuni Apr 2017 #6
Ah yes.. there's the Pawn for putin now.. jill stein Cha Apr 2017 #7
Ed Schultz Chooses the Limelight over Principles TomCADem Apr 2017 #16
That's not true MountCleaners Apr 2017 #8
Actually it might be, and your first paragraph is countered by something we see right here on DU stevenleser Apr 2017 #23
Except no "progressive' who would willingly join the alt-right is a progressive. pnwmom Apr 2017 #9
Here is the "Sane Progressive" Attacking Democratic Primary as Rigged and Bernie... TomCADem Apr 2017 #12
Wow. I wonder if she's part of Putin's team. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #13
History lesson: More Republicans than Democrats supported NAFTA MountCleaners Apr 2017 #10
Here Is Ron Paul Agreeing with Trump's Attack on NAFTA. TomCADem Apr 2017 #24
Daily Kos on Democrats' opposition to trade deals MountCleaners Apr 2017 #11
The Alt-Right Are Supportive of Protectionist Measures as Opposed To Establishment Republicans TomCADem Apr 2017 #14
"I am a progressive who gets results and I will be a progressive president who gets results" Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #15
Who is to say? Ed Schultz and the "Sane Progressive" Self-Identify as Progressives TomCADem Apr 2017 #27
Sure, and Donald Trump calls himself a Patriot Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #28
The election of 1872 is an example of a similar confluence. renegade000 Apr 2017 #17
It's the Worm Ouroboros. The Snake That Eats Its Own Tail. MineralMan Apr 2017 #19
Putin has his minions supporting the far left and far right. He is destroying the center. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #20
I would add "Caucasian superiority" or anti-Semitism and xenophobia to the list... VOX Apr 2017 #22
This is fucking stupid. alarimer Apr 2017 #25
There just seems to be a lot of denial about in-room elephants. HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #33
Not Divisive. Recognizing Common Ground Between Anti-Establishment Activists TomCADem Apr 2017 #35
Oh for fuck's sake. LeftyMom Apr 2017 #26
Yeah, the "split the party" trolling gets dumber and dumber Warpy Apr 2017 #29
Split the Party? Who Is Saying That Any of These Folks Are Democrats? TomCADem Apr 2017 #37
I don't understand cutting off part of the party, either. Volstagg Apr 2017 #34
Sane Progressive - "A TY to the RIGHT Opposing Missile Strikes" TomCADem Apr 2017 #36
I don't know her enough to comment. Volstagg Apr 2017 #38
Also, This Is Not About the Democratic Party. This Is About Folks Attacking the Democratic Party... TomCADem Apr 2017 #39
COME on, y'all. HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #30
There are not enough progressive left to win an election. Come 2018 they will say like in 2014 wasupaloopa Apr 2017 #32
Most of those are entertainment commentators working for ratings. wasupaloopa Apr 2017 #31
Russian/right propaganda move, yes sharedvalues Apr 2017 #41
Would the mash up mercuryblues Apr 2017 #42
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