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Vesper

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60. This is not even remotely equivalent.

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 05:41 AM

Apr 2017

This is not about "better than GOP counterparts" this guy is literally the same as the GOP. These are life and death issues, literally.

It's a BAD endorsement. It must be nice to be able to have esoteric discussions about this and armchair debates, but this man is literally dangerous to the lives of women.

This isn't the lesser of two evils, it's the same evil, possibly a worse one. They both had the stamp of approval from the anti-choice group Nebraska Right to Life, but only Mello has proposed these extremist bills.

I'm guessing that had you a uterus, it might be a bit more of a practical concern to you (and if you were in Omaha).

These are not political games and this man pushes for legislation that harms women, that doctors keep telling us is dangerous, and it's a REAL issue, not just a debate topic.

Here is an article that will hopefully help you to see why this is vastly different than the scenarios you mentioned. It's LITERALLY life and death.

http://netnebraska.org/article/news/maternal-mortality-nebraska-hits-rural-women-black-women-hardest

http://www.news-medical.net/news/20100312/Nebraska-ranks-40th-on-Amnesty-Internationals-maternal-mortality-ranking.aspx

(I added another, this is a vital issue and the more you know the better!)

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So today's thing is Tim Kaine bashing. Wonder what tomorrow will bring. [View all] DanTex Apr 2017 OP

What gets me in this whole thing is the purists are telling us to be practical now. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #1

Likewise, the Sensible Pragmatics are now calling for purity after QC Apr 2017 #5

I think the pragmatics here are reminding some people a woman's right to choose is not negotiable. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #11

I agree, but I also felt the same way about LGBT equality QC Apr 2017 #14

Ponies? I don't understand your meaning here. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #16

That was before your time. QC Apr 2017 #17

Yes I get it now. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #18

LGBTQ equality was only opposed by one candidate, Vesper Apr 2017 #52

Do you honestly deny that there was a purge of LGBT members here? QC Apr 2017 #63

I have no idea. While I've read this site along with several other progressive blogs, Vesper Apr 2017 #69

Love you and will always stand with ya. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #19

My pleasure She! hrmjustin Apr 2017 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Stern Apr 2017 #32

And you've determined JenniferJuniper Apr 2017 #31

Who is calling for purity? Vesper Apr 2017 #50

Not being female, I don't think I have a right to judge how the law should be on this Kentonio Apr 2017 #57

It's also worth mentioning that those countries in Europe also have no restrictions Vesper Apr 2017 #58

Absolutely agree on the other issues involved. Kentonio Apr 2017 #59

This is not even remotely equivalent. Vesper Apr 2017 #60

This guy is not the same as the GOP Kentonio Apr 2017 #61

Pro Keystone, proposed 20 week ban, anti telemedicine, pro ultrasound legislation. Vesper Apr 2017 #66

From what I understand Kentonio Apr 2017 #67

Umm no. Vesper Apr 2017 #68

You seem to misunderstand Kentonio Apr 2017 #70

Purists? KPN Apr 2017 #56

According to my cycle we should be back to Hillary eating babies for breakfast. nt William769 Apr 2017 #2

I thought.. sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #7

Please. Anything even remotely critical of her is instantly removed nt m-lekktor Apr 2017 #8

We must be Jamaal510 Apr 2017 #27

Lol sheshe2 Apr 2017 #34

LOL betsuni Apr 2017 #36

They're not fooling me. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #3

it's one poster JI7 Apr 2017 #4

Can you point me in the right direction? Kingofalldems Apr 2017 #9

Just A Guess.... Grassy Knoll Apr 2017 #24

That should have been taken down. Kingofalldems Apr 2017 #29

Two. n/t tammywammy Apr 2017 #10

It's not bashing melman Apr 2017 #6

"how utterly full of shit and phony all the outrage threads" Cha Apr 2017 #12

Yep. smh. nt m-lekktor Apr 2017 #15

Well given that the premise of the thread is false, it doesn't "point out" anything. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #25

Any deception is justified in pursuit of power and privilege BainsBane Apr 2017 #40

A big part of it is some can't accept that Bernie is human, makes mistakes emulatorloo Apr 2017 #65

Oh please! leftofcool Apr 2017 #26

It's fabricating to justify denying women equal rights BainsBane Apr 2017 #38

And how does this disruptive meta nonsense help? mythology Apr 2017 #13

It's not "meta" ... NOT challenging it, is to accept it and normalize it. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #21

it's only META if it's our side. William769 Apr 2017 #23

Thank you! NurseJackie Apr 2017 #28

Let it go or never let it go? Which is it? elias7 Apr 2017 #62

Figure it out yourself. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #64

The bothsiderism needs to stop. It is not both sides. Vesper Apr 2017 #46

Same group goes around yelling about pimaring Manchin. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2017 #22

and then use Machine as an example to defend BainsBane Apr 2017 #42

Tim Kaine actually does suck though Calculating Apr 2017 #30

He doesn't suck in terms of being anti-choice BainsBane Apr 2017 #43

"Tim Kaine is pro-choice, not pro-death" Cha Apr 2017 #33

Well it's usually Michael Moore and Bill Mahr making the rounds as punching bags. miyazaki Apr 2017 #35

We'll probably be hearing about women politicians who have given birth BainsBane Apr 2017 #37

Wait, what? Vesper Apr 2017 #45

Sorry, it was adoption BainsBane Apr 2017 #47

Wow. Vesper Apr 2017 #54

As someone said, it's gaslighting BainsBane Apr 2017 #55

Yeah, the giddiness over finding a sleazy tactic to smear R B Garr Apr 2017 #39

I see it differntly BainsBane Apr 2017 #41

Very plausible. There is definitely a pattern R B Garr Apr 2017 #49

If Twitter is anything to go by, another round of attacking Chelsea. Vesper Apr 2017 #44

What now? BainsBane Apr 2017 #48

The usual, her name, her parents, the fact that she breathes, is well educated, Vesper Apr 2017 #53

Longest... Snackshack Apr 2017 #51

I looking forward to the next silly line of attack Gothmog Apr 2017 #71