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KPN

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176. I understand your position and reading on that.

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 12:06 PM

Apr 2017

I won't say that you are absolutely wrong about that. But I will say that Bernie himself is not ambivalent in the least about his personal support for social justice for all.

It comes down to, do we want to win elections or not? The majority of Americans are with us already on social issues, as are nearly all younger people/the millenials.

So, what's it going to be? Are we going build on the majority re: social justice issues that we already have or not?

We are prevailing long run on social issues and I believe we will continue to do so regardless of how many nefarious attempts the GOP makes to turn back the clock on those issues. The future is bright if you observe younger cohorts.

As a Party, we should never accept laws that do not respect the rights of women, POC or LGBT. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to win over votes around economic issues.

I just don't buy the either or stance. It's a false premise in my mind -- and a losing one so far.

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And the hits just keep coming.... Bernie Sanders: The Model of the Democratic Party Is Failing [View all] boston bean Apr 2017 OP

Oh that's just swell. lamp_shade Apr 2017 #1

He continually disses the Democratic Party when the repugs are colluding with Russians... brush Apr 2017 #225

He might as well be writing ads for the RNC Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2017 #237

I love alternative cheerleaders. democratisphere Apr 2017 #2

The Democratic Party contains about one hundred times the strength of his party of one. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #3

But the m$m keeps giving him a mic to Cha Apr 2017 #24

F M$M in the US! They hand the mic to anyone they think they can make money off. RKP5637 Apr 2017 #142

I agree.. the M$M love the Dividers.. put BS on ALL Cha Apr 2017 #276

Senate Democrats gave him the mic. KPN Apr 2017 #152

He's already running for the 2020 election. Lonestarblue Apr 2017 #59

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #69

Whatever you say buddy. Pauldg47 Apr 2017 #74

Thank you, my friend. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #246

2018 Senate race is my indicator. Amimnoch Apr 2017 #192

You are far more generous than I would be. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #195

how large of print do you need it spelled out grahampuba Apr 2017 #114

So this means we totally need to take the party in the direction to 25-30 years ago? ehrnst Apr 2017 #127

No, not entirely. But on the KPN Apr 2017 #159

I am not hearing the second part of that message from Bernie. ehrnst Apr 2017 #161

I understand your position and reading on that. KPN Apr 2017 #176

BUT the party lost in November because it did not address the issues of a certain group of voters. tonyt53 Apr 2017 #229

I assume you meant this response to a different post. Sounds like KPN Apr 2017 #258

You can thank folks like Bernie spreading this meme for people incorrectly thinking that. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #146

This poll that has gotten certain progressives overjoyed ehrnst Apr 2017 #164

In what way is this a meme? KPN Apr 2017 #171

Maybe those 35 years would've been better for them if voters hadn't kneecapped us ... dawg Apr 2017 #188

There is some truth to that. But its up to us KPN Apr 2017 #196

So there are no out of touch Dem positions. Which shows that is a false narrative. nt. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #193

Well, you ignore the part about past performance and KPN Apr 2017 #198

Why didn't he just say Dem past performance was inadequate? That is a very different critique. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #206

I think he did say that in other words. KPN Apr 2017 #256

Why'd he use those words? It sounded like a Trump tweet. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #270

You are putting words in Bernie's mouth when you ask that. He ... KPN Apr 2017 #295

Claiming Dems are "out of touch with the working class" is NOT "nothing more than a colloquialism." SunSeeker Apr 2017 #297

Believe it. That's the way I see it as do millions of others ... KPN Apr 2017 #299

Dems didn't favor "corporations over people." That's the GOP. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #300

You gotta be kidding. KPN Apr 2017 #301

The rightward shift is thanks to the GOP going off the deep end on Reaganomics. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #303

I have read Paul Krugman - lots. What's your point? KPN Apr 2017 #304

The repeal of Glass-Steagall did not kill the middle class, Reagonomics did. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #307

We disagree. KPN Apr 2017 #309

What part of "only 24 filibuster proof working days" do you not understand? SunSeeker Apr 2017 #310

Oh come on. "Animosity toward Obama and Dems"? KPN Apr 2017 #311

I can only go by what you write. Your posts bash Dems. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #312

Go by what I write? You seem to have a confirmation bias going on ... KPN Apr 2017 #313

Yes. There's a reason the Party has been KPN Apr 2017 #158

Lot of gerrymandering. Takes way more votes to put a Dem in office than a GOP'er ehrnst Apr 2017 #166

Gerrymandering is an issue. We need to beat that no question. KPN Apr 2017 #184

Actually, she lost by less than 1% in those swing states ehrnst Apr 2017 #194

Yep, it was less than 1%. KPN Apr 2017 #252

The extremists are the ones who think that the only universal issues are the ones ehrnst Apr 2017 #254

Yes. Thank you. KPN Apr 2017 #260

I think that Bernie doesn't see that they are interconnected. ehrnst Apr 2017 #267

We have 2 county districts loyalsister Apr 2017 #296

If certain high-profile people keep yelling that "the Democratic Party is out of touch"... brush Apr 2017 #230

I've noticed our progressive paltform really has some scrambling. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #247

You don't air your dirty laundry in public. Things like this should be discussed whithing the party lunamagica Apr 2017 #253

Yes. Anyone with a GENUINE and SINCERE desire to help (not hurt) the party would do that. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #263

within the party... grahampuba Apr 2017 #298

"one hundred times the strength of his party of one" - not according to votes, polls, and donations aikoaiko Apr 2017 #223

Polls are your thing. Votes have been clear. As have donations. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #249

.... LexVegas Apr 2017 #4

Well, that's really helpful dalton99a Apr 2017 #5

You're not helping Bernie! treestar Apr 2017 #6

Than you treestar!!! kytngirl Apr 2017 #18

Ditto, & second that onetexan Apr 2017 #113

Those defending Sanders should think about this. He has been given a leadership position stevenleser Apr 2017 #7

Yeah, he'd rather divide.. even his former press sec Symone Cha Apr 2017 #23

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #81

Bernie - dammit! Plucketeer Apr 2017 #118

He would have some cred in his statements about Dems ehrnst Apr 2017 #268

yeah Plucketeer Apr 2017 #271

Or Give Up The POsition Me. Apr 2017 #85

Absolutely, if he can't help attacking the party, give up the position and the pretense of working stevenleser Apr 2017 #138

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #129

Fixing what he considers the problem is what he is attempting to do. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #157

How Is Constant Carping Fixing The Problem Me. Apr 2017 #169

Exactly, it's just posturing. He hasn't got any other skills. nt stevenleser Apr 2017 #187

No, he is posturing. He isn't fixing anything. nt stevenleser Apr 2017 #186

+1000, his obsession with badmouthing Democrats has R B Garr Apr 2017 #283

I know Sanders is and always was one a "Johnny One Note" but it's hard to believe KittyWampus Apr 2017 #8

Exactly. His actions do look like part of a bigger self-serving R B Garr Apr 2017 #284

How should Democrats respond to the Russian threat delisen Apr 2017 #9

How should Democrats respond to the Russian threat? a tomahawk up putins ass.... stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #219

Time to end the unity tour and maybe Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #10

I 100% agree with that -- I will back you with that request obamanut2012 Apr 2017 #26

I don't see how we can grant an exception to someone who says stuff that would get a poster banned Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #102

Oh gosh, because you're being so heavily censored lately... Kentonio Apr 2017 #141

it doesn't make sense to me. And it is not about censorship but Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #155

How does it feel? ehrnst Apr 2017 #177

I have no idea. Kentonio Apr 2017 #199

The hyperbole there certainly isn't reasonable. ehrnst Apr 2017 #201

We're not persecuted Kentonio Apr 2017 #214

what protected status ? drray23 Apr 2017 #31

It is in TOS. Bernie is mentioned by name. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #99

Another guy protected, why isn't Hillary Clinton mentioned by name. boston bean Apr 2017 #134

She's covered in the "Don't Bash Democrats" language and she isn't based on DU. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #222

Agee lillypaddle Apr 2017 #89

I don't know. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #103

I suggest, in all seriousness, that we should petition ATA in that forum Hekate Apr 2017 #100

I agree with you. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #104

Getting to that point, isn't it? ehrnst Apr 2017 #130

By his own words that is true. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #156

I would write my true feelings about this Cane4Dems Apr 2017 #11

+1 betsuni Apr 2017 #13

Been there, done that. randome Apr 2017 #14

I have also been flagged repeatedly in the last few days. And NOTHING was over the top KittyWampus Apr 2017 #29

I had three posts hidden the reason for all three were for refighting the primary. boston bean Apr 2017 #38

Me too frazzled Apr 2017 #51

I was a Hillary supporter but... radical noodle Apr 2017 #122

I posted something positive Chevy Apr 2017 #210

All I know is that if I was to post this sentence as my own ehrnst Apr 2017 #202

I don't disagree at all radical noodle Apr 2017 #232

It's BS' own words.. it should be allowed. Cha Apr 2017 #54

What the ... betsuni Apr 2017 #12

Why doesn't Bernie join the socialist party? snooper2 Apr 2017 #15

Listen to the millenials...how about the New Democratic Party. Pauldg47 Apr 2017 #78

Good question. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #203

But...the little birdies like him. He looks good in a Ben & Jerry's carton. randome Apr 2017 #16

Bernie is about one person. BERNIE. LibraLiz1973 Apr 2017 #17

That's what I said last week... kytngirl Apr 2017 #19

BS is a reluctant endorser of fellow progressives ehrnst Apr 2017 #183

Jane Kleep is an our revolution member or was and is now Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #209

+1 tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #217

I said something similar a few days ago...Got a hide lunamagica Apr 2017 #269

Contact the DNC Brogrizzly Apr 2017 #20

+1 Heartstrings Apr 2017 #47

No, you're 100% on target. Ligyron Apr 2017 #55

Done. I am a registered Democrat. ehrnst Apr 2017 #135

We're in the worst shape since reconstruction zipplewrath Apr 2017 #205

So much for "unity" George II Apr 2017 #21

It would have been better to do NOTHING AT ALL. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #42

I was watching that interview with a couple friends over the weekend. Scoopster Apr 2017 #22

Good analysis, Scoopster.. I know.. Cha Apr 2017 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author obamanut2012 Apr 2017 #25

really??? for what? linking to slate that gives bernies exact words, just yesterday? boston bean Apr 2017 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author obamanut2012 Apr 2017 #32

linking to a story that states exactly what he said is attacking a democrat? boston bean Apr 2017 #34

Go figure.. there's the exact OP in Vids.. Cha Apr 2017 #46

Divisive group attacks. Amimnoch Apr 2017 #33

I like your sig line picture. boston bean Apr 2017 #35

You are absolutely welcome to. Amimnoch Apr 2017 #181

It's BS' own words.. so they agree.. he's divisive. Cha Apr 2017 #52

I got dinged again yesterday, too. kcr Apr 2017 #67

Yup three times in one Chevy Apr 2017 #215

Yep. I was a juror. Amimnoch Apr 2017 #30

Does this mean the unity tour is over? I cannot take much more unity. n/t seaglass Apr 2017 #36

lol.. that was a bust Cha Apr 2017 #41

It was a total fail. We deserve better. Doing nothing at all would have been better. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #61

There was a huge amount of unity displayed on 1/21/2017. Why not keep building on that?? boston bean Apr 2017 #64

That's a great question. If by "division" you actually mean "ego" then perhaps you're right. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #79

Yes, I have seen many people on Twitter stating that they are no longer contributing to the DNC but seaglass Apr 2017 #76

I'm disappointed in Schumer and Perez (and Ellison for that matter)... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #84

Now I feel so unified! NBachers Apr 2017 #37

I remember many here who said during the election ehrnst Apr 2017 #178

Hey BS.. you don't speak for me or any of my family or Cha Apr 2017 #39

And nevertheless, we persist. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #185

We won the popular vote shenmue Apr 2017 #40

second most votes EVER! boston bean Apr 2017 #45

No mention of positive happenings.. always the BIG Cha Apr 2017 #63

Right, shenmue.. BS would rather talk "failure" Cha Apr 2017 #49

The bashers say those votes don't count uponit7771 Apr 2017 #70

Yes, especially when that is statistically incredibly after a party has 2 terms in the WH. ehrnst Apr 2017 #179

Make Democrats Win Again IronLionZion Apr 2017 #43

Sanders is not a Democrat and needs to go form is own Party. Stop latching on to one he wants to Lil Missy Apr 2017 #44

You are literally advocating for a fatal split of the Democratic party with that statement. n/t yodermon Apr 2017 #66

I don't think so. I think that if the GOP had nipped the Tea Party in the bud ehrnst Apr 2017 #144

No, not quite. I'm a Democrat. Bernie is not a Democrat. Lil Missy Apr 2017 #231

Einstein had a few words to say on the subject: BigBearJohn Apr 2017 #48

Yes.. so why would BS keep saying the same thing over Cha Apr 2017 #50

I think people give BS too much credence. Brogrizzly Apr 2017 #58

You're sweet, Brogrizzly Cha Apr 2017 #60

Yeap, continuing to unfairly bash dems over and over again and expect dems to follow uponit7771 Apr 2017 #62

So we go backwards 40 years in terms of social justice? That's not change ehrnst Apr 2017 #145

Please STOP attributing a hokey aphorism from "the big book of Narcotics Anonymous" to Einstein. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #286

Bernie is correct. Diagnosis then treatment. masmdu Apr 2017 #53

False diagnosis is to continue to leave out Russia, Comey and voter suppression uponit7771 Apr 2017 #65

Funny.. he never mentions Hillary got 3 Million more Votes than Cha Apr 2017 #92

+1, ... not getting this guy, but the BOD is shrinking slowly uponit7771 Apr 2017 #101

THOUGHTCRIME!!!! (NT) ehrnst Apr 2017 #148

I agree that the voter suppression and Russian hacking was terrible but Comey was by far the worst. StevieM Apr 2017 #251

Bernie is wrong on his diagnosis, and therefore the treatment. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #147

No win and then win again. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #160

I think the intentions... Mike Nelson Apr 2017 #56

Asking for the Democratic party to change retrowire Apr 2017 #57

It is when the change is based of an unfair critique that involves victim blaming vs an honest ... uponit7771 Apr 2017 #68

False bifurcation. We can ALSO talk about our own weaknesses. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #86

It's still not "tearing it down" or destroying it. retrowire Apr 2017 #90

Not overdramatic in the least. Especially considering that ehrnst Apr 2017 #143

Thank god I don't have this cliqueish mindset retrowire Apr 2017 #153

This should not hurt the Democratic party in the least .. ananda Apr 2017 #71

I'm tired of threads trashing Bernie. PatrickforO Apr 2017 #72

And, this is the biggest reason chervilant Apr 2017 #106

+++1000. Cannot agree more. I seldom spend much time here anymore for Nay Apr 2017 #220

who is trashing Bernie ? stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #108

This entire thread. See my post immediately below. PatrickforO Apr 2017 #273

states exactly what he said is attacking a bernie? stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #285

We won the popular vote. Perhaps the lesson you took is the wrong lesson. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #149

I don't think so. Because we still lost big, popular vote aside. PatrickforO Apr 2017 #272

If resisting someone trying to move our party away from a pro-choice ehrnst Apr 2017 #274

Don't give me the 'splaining meme. It is neither merited in this dialog nor is it PatrickforO Apr 2017 #275

It was well earned. ehrnst Apr 2017 #277

Hey, I said pro abortion because words matter. Years ago, the so-called PatrickforO Apr 2017 #280

Not letting perfect be the enemy of good ehrnst Apr 2017 #281

No, wasting time trashing Bernie when we should be barnstorming right alongside him. PatrickforO Apr 2017 #282

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #73

He got all he wanted on his platform.. We have Strong Dems out Cha Apr 2017 #77

It's not like Russians, Gerrymandering and Voter Suppression have anything to do with it. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #80

So much splaining going on here at DU ehrnst Apr 2017 #75

+1000! mcar Apr 2017 #117

I am so thankful for my IL. chervilant Apr 2017 #293

You're welcome. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #294

Do we still have to be nice to this guy? liberal N proud Apr 2017 #82

I'm glad this tour is over. Starry Messenger Apr 2017 #83

The tour may be over, but the effects from the damage it caused ... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #88

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #87

The very selective bestowing of certain candidates with the blessing of "progressive" ehrnst Apr 2017 #182

Jane Kleeb is the chair of the Democratic Party in Nebraska... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #208

Man.. Mercurian Apr 2017 #91

BS is trying to make himself look good and the Democratic Cha Apr 2017 #97

Amazing how women just won't listen!!! The nerve ehrnst Apr 2017 #125

That's right, ehrnst.. We Be Persisting.. Cha Apr 2017 #126

seems legit ! stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #110

I'm growing tired of his act. Bleacher Creature Apr 2017 #93

The Democratic party has been losing on so many levels I'm sick at heart Arazi Apr 2017 #94

We have a bunch of Winners in the Democratic Party.. Cha Apr 2017 #96

latest poll: 67% think that the Democratic Party is out of touch virtualobserver Apr 2017 #120

And going backwards in terms of social justice is a "winning" strategy? ehrnst Apr 2017 #151

having two thirds of the population say that you are out of touch is the very definition.... virtualobserver Apr 2017 #165

Respondents of one survey is not "2/3 of the population" ehrnst Apr 2017 #174

the only change needed is to get rid of Bernie Sanders....that is the message that I am getting. virtualobserver Apr 2017 #190

You don't decide values based on polls... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #306

No, but the polls reveal perceptions of the party that decide future elections virtualobserver Apr 2017 #308

And who do you think is causing people to think this way? Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #162

A party that is confronted by the truth, yet refuses to change, is not being "run down" virtualobserver Apr 2017 #170

constant criticism is driving the negative Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #200

I assume you are working on restoring the VRA Starry Messenger Apr 2017 #116

Well, maybe the party needs to go forward, not backward 30 years ehrnst Apr 2017 #137

I wish people would stop worrying about BS. Brogrizzly Apr 2017 #95

As soon as the MSM stops paying attention to him, we will stop worrying about him. nt pnwmom Apr 2017 #240

Right, the same MSM that broadcasted Trump hi and low for ratings. Brogrizzly Apr 2017 #259

It is very possible for most of us to walk and chew gum at the same time. pnwmom Apr 2017 #261

Again, this specific statement I believe is taken out of context. Brogrizzly Apr 2017 #265

He obviously can't see all of our winning... vi5 Apr 2017 #98

Bernie speaks the truth Fiendish Thingy Apr 2017 #105

You are right, but constructive criticism is really tough for some to face Kimchijeon Apr 2017 #111

All BS does is divide the Democratic Party with his Cha Apr 2017 #115

NO such thing as constructive criticism...when you are in the fight of your life. nt Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #163

Note to all the Bernie bashers on this thread tiredtoo Apr 2017 #107

Note to BS.. Stop insulting the Democratic Party.. Cha Apr 2017 #112

cha tiredtoo Apr 2017 #234

I think the point I made is relevant to our Democracy Cha Apr 2017 #278

How about voter are more selfish, greedy, bigoted and less civic minded? nikibatts Apr 2017 #119

nikibatts tiredtoo Apr 2017 #238

This will blow over get the red out Apr 2017 #109

Bernie needs to stop making this shit all about him Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #121

And so many more people are noticing.. Cha Apr 2017 #124

hisssss nini Apr 2017 #123

I agree! Cha Apr 2017 #128

a bit.. nini Apr 2017 #131

Cheers to Monday.. Cha Apr 2017 #133

"The Model of the Democratic Party" DFW Apr 2017 #132

Thanks Bernie!!!! Adrahil Apr 2017 #136

I'm relatively new to DU and no political scientist, but it has been Enoki33 Apr 2017 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Apr 2017 #140

If Bernie runs in 2020 as an Independent... SpicyBoi Apr 2017 #150

That would be a fine legacy for Bernie...to become the Nader of 2020. I doubt he would do this. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #167

i worry our party could be hijacked... samnsara Apr 2017 #154

I agree ....but it seems to me Democrats are realizing more and more who is on their side and Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #168

yeah, but only if you consider winning important .... Locrian Apr 2017 #172

So that's why she only beat Trump by 3,000,000 + votes rock Apr 2017 #173

and why we've been losing down-ticket elections for a while now, which is what he states in the JCanete Apr 2017 #228

But why she lost the states she needed to win the EC. alarimer Apr 2017 #305

It is hard to categorize a model Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #175

He can advise the Dem party when he puts a "D" by his name. CakeGrrl Apr 2017 #189

Isn't he right when you look at and compare GOP gains vs Democratic KPN Apr 2017 #191

If I was to post this sentence as my own on DU - the post would be hidden for TOS violations ehrnst Apr 2017 #197

ENOUGH, dammit, Bernie NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #204

If your 'revolution' doesn't implicitly and explicitly include a rejection of misogyny, racism, ehrnst Apr 2017 #213

+1,000 NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #216

what's controversial? lies Apr 2017 #207

How many examples of problems with your superficial analysis do you want? stevenleser Apr 2017 #221

Sorry but lies Apr 2017 #235

You should be sorry, because redistricting and voter suppression stevenleser Apr 2017 #244

The thing is... again... lies Apr 2017 #250

You're not recognizing all that went into taking down Cha Apr 2017 #288

And you lies Apr 2017 #289

No, I'm not. They sat home on their hands.. Cha Apr 2017 #290

You're right benpollard Apr 2017 #241

No, they are not. Ignoring inconvenient facts will never produce a right answer. nt stevenleser Apr 2017 #245

They're are lots of things to work on .. but BS isn't Cha Apr 2017 #291

There goes Bernie giving Trump quotable quotes again. Just like his "she's unqualified" remark. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #211

OMG. It sort of does seem like something you would see in a trump tweet. boston bean Apr 2017 #212

Yes, he's so helpful like that. Cha Apr 2017 #292

I refused to remake the Democratic party into the image of Sanders Gothmog Apr 2017 #218

He wants us to support these guys Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #224

This makes sense when you resign yourself to who he really, actually is. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #226

I think someone should tell him to stop the criticism of the party and fire on Trump. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #227

I am new and I don't get the bashing lovemydogs Apr 2017 #233

How can this OP be bashing?? It is Bernies own words. boston bean Apr 2017 #236

Yeah I don't know why Bernie keeps bashing the Dems. pnwmom Apr 2017 #242

Bernie is right benpollard Apr 2017 #239

Nonsense. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #243

It has become a center right party. lovemydogs Apr 2017 #255

You obviously didn't read the platform if you can call it a center-right party. nt pnwmom Apr 2017 #262

I hope he won't run again in 2020. nt Jamaal510 Apr 2017 #248

Latest polling shows this clearly riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #257

TranslationThe only way the Democratic Party could be seen as suceeding is if it had nominated me'. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2017 #264

It is clear that Sanders is causing additional fighting in the Democratic ranks CajunBlazer Apr 2017 #266

I think he should stop trying to tear down the Cha Apr 2017 #287

This just in. mahina Apr 2017 #279

I've been careful not to bash Bernie because I actually like Bernie. hamsterjill Apr 2017 #302