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Vesper

(229 posts)
66. Pro Keystone, proposed 20 week ban, anti telemedicine, pro ultrasound legislation.
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 12:38 PM
Apr 2017

It is truly ridiculous to say that he is not the same as the GOP. I do not care what his religion is, or what his personal beliefs are about his own body, this man sought to harm women legislatively.

I do not care what he states, he has ALREADY show us what he is. In case you are not aware, there is literally zero reason for any bill to make ultrasounds available, what was the compromise? That was literally the status quo before and after, that was an utterly pointless bill and this spin on it is even more ridiculous than ignoring the man's literal legislative history and right wing policy positions. His one act was utterly meaningless, while his 20 week ban that he sponsored speaks volumes, as does his anti telemedicine thing.

I offered links to explain the heinousness of his positions, I will include another.

He is NOT progressive period, he is literally more regressive than his GOP opponent, since he has introduced right wing legislation himself, and signed a letter in support of Keystone.

This is not about holding out for perfection, this is literally sounding the alarm that this man is dangerous, dishonest and WORSE than the GOP.

I will be damned if I stay silent as the purists who demanded perfection now excuse actual right wingers who sought to kill women, violate their access to healthcare in the most sadistic ways possible and who demand that w not call out the blatant hupicrisy, misogyny and wrong headed actions here.

Women's basic human rights are not a play thing, and if it is something that any purist is not rigid on, we shall all learn why and how it is a stupidness idea to piss off women. We are the base, we are the backbone, we are the actual workforce, it is OUR marches that some are taking credit for who have not listened at all. We told you all that we were fighting for our basic rights and the right to choice was not negotiable.

I guess being this tone deaf and this blatant about the reality of that supposed "purity" while denying the facts to support a white man who is a literal right winger working to kill women and make them suffer is a fail in outreach, but does unify us against this toxic strain of faux progressivism.

We see and hear what is going on, and we are not pleased with the hypocrisy or the condescension from the folks who seek to marginalized women, POC and the actual working class. Do not underestimate us.

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What gets me in this whole thing is the purists are telling us to be practical now. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #1
Likewise, the Sensible Pragmatics are now calling for purity after QC Apr 2017 #5
I think the pragmatics here are reminding some people a woman's right to choose is not negotiable. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #11
I agree, but I also felt the same way about LGBT equality QC Apr 2017 #14
Ponies? I don't understand your meaning here. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #16
That was before your time. QC Apr 2017 #17
Yes I get it now. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #18
LGBTQ equality was only opposed by one candidate, Vesper Apr 2017 #52
Do you honestly deny that there was a purge of LGBT members here? QC Apr 2017 #63
I have no idea. While I've read this site along with several other progressive blogs, Vesper Apr 2017 #69
Love you and will always stand with ya. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #19
My pleasure She! hrmjustin Apr 2017 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Stern Apr 2017 #32
And you've determined JenniferJuniper Apr 2017 #31
Who is calling for purity? Vesper Apr 2017 #50
Not being female, I don't think I have a right to judge how the law should be on this Kentonio Apr 2017 #57
It's also worth mentioning that those countries in Europe also have no restrictions Vesper Apr 2017 #58
Absolutely agree on the other issues involved. Kentonio Apr 2017 #59
This is not even remotely equivalent. Vesper Apr 2017 #60
This guy is not the same as the GOP Kentonio Apr 2017 #61
Pro Keystone, proposed 20 week ban, anti telemedicine, pro ultrasound legislation. Vesper Apr 2017 #66
From what I understand Kentonio Apr 2017 #67
Umm no. Vesper Apr 2017 #68
You seem to misunderstand Kentonio Apr 2017 #70
Purists? KPN Apr 2017 #56
According to my cycle we should be back to Hillary eating babies for breakfast. nt William769 Apr 2017 #2
I thought.. sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #7
Please. Anything even remotely critical of her is instantly removed nt m-lekktor Apr 2017 #8
We must be Jamaal510 Apr 2017 #27
Lol sheshe2 Apr 2017 #34
LOL betsuni Apr 2017 #36
They're not fooling me. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #3
it's one poster JI7 Apr 2017 #4
Can you point me in the right direction? Kingofalldems Apr 2017 #9
Just A Guess.... Grassy Knoll Apr 2017 #24
That should have been taken down. Kingofalldems Apr 2017 #29
Two. n/t tammywammy Apr 2017 #10
It's not bashing melman Apr 2017 #6
"how utterly full of shit and phony all the outrage threads" Cha Apr 2017 #12
Yep. smh. nt m-lekktor Apr 2017 #15
Well given that the premise of the thread is false, it doesn't "point out" anything. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #25
Any deception is justified in pursuit of power and privilege BainsBane Apr 2017 #40
A big part of it is some can't accept that Bernie is human, makes mistakes emulatorloo Apr 2017 #65
Oh please! leftofcool Apr 2017 #26
It's fabricating to justify denying women equal rights BainsBane Apr 2017 #38
And how does this disruptive meta nonsense help? mythology Apr 2017 #13
It's not "meta" ... NOT challenging it, is to accept it and normalize it. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #21
it's only META if it's our side. William769 Apr 2017 #23
Thank you! NurseJackie Apr 2017 #28
Let it go or never let it go? Which is it? elias7 Apr 2017 #62
Figure it out yourself. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #64
The bothsiderism needs to stop. It is not both sides. Vesper Apr 2017 #46
Same group goes around yelling about pimaring Manchin. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2017 #22
and then use Machine as an example to defend BainsBane Apr 2017 #42
Tim Kaine actually does suck though Calculating Apr 2017 #30
He doesn't suck in terms of being anti-choice BainsBane Apr 2017 #43
"Tim Kaine is pro-choice, not pro-death" Cha Apr 2017 #33
Well it's usually Michael Moore and Bill Mahr making the rounds as punching bags. miyazaki Apr 2017 #35
We'll probably be hearing about women politicians who have given birth BainsBane Apr 2017 #37
Wait, what? Vesper Apr 2017 #45
Sorry, it was adoption BainsBane Apr 2017 #47
Wow. Vesper Apr 2017 #54
As someone said, it's gaslighting BainsBane Apr 2017 #55
Yeah, the giddiness over finding a sleazy tactic to smear R B Garr Apr 2017 #39
I see it differntly BainsBane Apr 2017 #41
Very plausible. There is definitely a pattern R B Garr Apr 2017 #49
If Twitter is anything to go by, another round of attacking Chelsea. Vesper Apr 2017 #44
What now? BainsBane Apr 2017 #48
The usual, her name, her parents, the fact that she breathes, is well educated, Vesper Apr 2017 #53
Longest... Snackshack Apr 2017 #51
I looking forward to the next silly line of attack Gothmog Apr 2017 #71
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