"...first time the government has forced us to buy a product" MY ASS!

[TheKentuckian]

159. You are accessed the penalty even if you don't

The law is to prevent free riders, it makes no distinction if you pay your bills despite that meaning you paid more than an insurance company would which means not only are you not a "free rider" but are net subsidizing the system and in exchange you are charged more.

Of course you may damn well go to the hospital without choosing to because you may be unconscious or otherwise not capable of making such a decision and get sent there.
In any event, it is not voluntary participation in commerce in the way the examples are. You do not choose to be ill or have any ailment and if you want to argue that then you'd better start with the Administration and the Solicitor General who argue the unique nature of the market. I only argue a step further that the nature of the situation means. Health care cannot be rationally viewed as a market at all, needs are unpredictable with huge levels of variance in actual need and excess is between difficult and impossible to measure.

Remember when all is said and done that you accepted, internalized, and advanced the backward ass notion that health care is a commodity. What is wrong with you and these others to even take that tact? Why have you accepted the far right argument? I don't care if you support a different methodology to address the argument, why have you accepted their fundamental premise? You realize we cannot get to health care as right from the perspective it is a commodity?

This is exactly where fuckers want to leave this issue! Every "fix it later" and "this is the first step" "and now the real fight begins" is a bunch of bullshit to lobby for acceptance and support of this old Heritage Foundation deviltry.

Not that long ago the "let them die" folks believed almost exactly as you do now, many of them even were ok with low income subsidies back 15-20 years ago. Now look at them, rot in your soul has consequences. Too many here think that the present depths of the radical regressive element gives them more wiggle room to be assholes without being conflated with the opposition and maybe that appears to be true in the short term but the baggage ways the same and the twisting of your thought patterns will have long range effects.

Its like doesn't apply, there is no reasonable comparison and trying to make it a market is amoral, stupid, greedy, and nonsensical. It makes more sense to have a market based military, at least there you can reasonably anticipate what may be needed.
The funny thing is most people here understand that but will try to bang the square peg into a round hole because 's that is the essence of what plan passed and so much be supported even if it means adopting the opposition's long held premise that health care is exploitable for profit, rational market which is crazy bunk.