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17. it's a bit like white privilege / male privilege, etc. kinda hard to avoid it even if you're trying
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 01:39 PM
Jul 2012

speaking as a white male, i'm aware that some of the success i've gotten in my career is due to my being a white male. i can't point to any specific incident, but it can't be complete coincidence. just as i'm also aware that i've been at a disadvantage for being short and non-religious (particularly non-christian) being active in my "church" likely would have led to advantageous business connections.

it's entirely possible to do nothing wrong but to be a beneficiary of unfairness, such as when i get a job, did they choose me in some small part because i'm white? because i'm male? i'll never know, but i look around an notice there are few women and fewer blacks at my level.

similarly, it's nearly impossible, at some level, to run any sort of a business without being the beneficiary of some unfairness. nearly any time you negotiate you're likely to argue for, and occassionally successfully get, more than your fair share.

a simple example is volume rebates or discounts from suppliers. you're taking advantage of the fact that you, as business, even if small, might well be placing larger and more frequent orders than the typical retail customer, and therefore can get a better price. the way our system is set up, you'd be crazy not to do this. but in the process, you're taking advantage of your situation and effectively causing smaller purchaser to subsidize your operation (just as you're subsidizing the operations of larger businesses who can get bigger discounts).

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One set are manufacturers and the other are financial institutions? sinkingfeeling Jul 2012 #1
Entreprener vs rateyes Jul 2012 #2
couldn't an entrepreneur be a financier as well? yurbud Jul 2012 #8
I think you hit it.... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #3
Easy - Creators and vultures - in that order. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #4
I like that except the financiers have already claimed they are job "creators" yurbud Jul 2012 #10
Producers vs Vampire Squids... PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #5
+1 IDemo Jul 2012 #16
Structural vs. "Jenga" or parasitic. Arctic Dave Jul 2012 #6
I suppose the term "money changers" would work. Liberal Veteran Jul 2012 #7
that got an anti-Semitic rap somewhere along the way yurbud Jul 2012 #14
perhaps "non-profit"? unblock Jul 2012 #9
at one point, the gov't had to figure out difference between legit multilevel marketing and pyramid yurbud Jul 2012 #11
I make money without screwing anybody except perhaps myself. I don't make much, lol. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #12
what do you do? yurbud Jul 2012 #13
Veterinarian - feline-exclusive practice kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #15
so when the Red Cross calls, you can tell them you gave blood at the office yurbud Jul 2012 #18
You got it! kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #24
it's a bit like white privilege / male privilege, etc. kinda hard to avoid it even if you're trying unblock Jul 2012 #17
I once heard you can't make a profit unless you buy things and people for LESS than they are worth yurbud Jul 2012 #21
well, that ignores any "value add" that you bring to the table. unblock Jul 2012 #25
profit could still be beyond the "value added" yurbud Jul 2012 #26
exactly, and that's the problem. it's a half-truth that profit is earned. unblock Jul 2012 #30
while cheating can enrich one person at the expense of another BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #35
How about "tangible businesses" vs. "financial parasites"? ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #19
that's pretty good. yurbud Jul 2012 #22
And how to differentiate jobs that actually produce something from executives that are bonused postulater Jul 2012 #20
your mom is right. yurbud Jul 2012 #27
And how ironic that she's the life-long Republican postulater Jul 2012 #32
Isn't it interesting ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #29
I've been using "free enterprise" to describe actual producers hifiguy Jul 2012 #23
How about ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #28
"Rentiers" could be the term you want. PETRUS Jul 2012 #31
I believe this to be accurate Populist_Prole Jul 2012 #40
I believe the proper term is arbitrage vs. every other kind of business slackmaster Jul 2012 #33
it's not so easy to distinguish b/w finance capital and industrial capital BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #34
that is the problem: the financial sector has become a cancer that has infected real businesses yurbud Jul 2012 #37
i guess BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #39
Leeches? Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #36
Producers vs. Conjurers? Iris Jul 2012 #38
Hosts vs parasites Tom Ripley Jul 2012 #41
Distinctions SoDesuKa Jul 2012 #42
How about this: if you invest in helping family and businesses succeed, you're a good banker... yurbud Jul 2012 #43
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