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Romulox

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39. Democrats, including the President, support TPP. Might as well go firebag it with Romney!

Reply to HiPointDem (Original post)

Tue Jul 3, 2012, 01:47 PM

Jul 2012

(You see, insincere and mind-numbing deflections are easy to deploy!)

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Why people 'vote against their own interests' ? [View all] HiPointDem Jul 2012 OP

a good understanding of this is to riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #1

"These are the famous "interest groups" that take over the Democratic Party" Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #2

I tend to agree that identity issue groups didn't literally take over the party. What i'd say is HiPointDem Jul 2012 #3

so Mondale was "center-right"? Dukakis was "center-right"? hfojvt Jul 2012 #29

No and yes. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #30

Fuck the reason why they do it. They key is working around those assholes. craigmatic Jul 2012 #4

yeah, there's a winning strategy. how's that working for you? HiPointDem Jul 2012 #5

Well we got HCR and Obama elected the first time. So I think it's working pretty well. craigmatic Jul 2012 #6

there's the difference between you & most people. corporatist policies & candidates = "victory". HiPointDem Jul 2012 #7

Well give examples of how your way of thinking has won us anything at all recently. craigmatic Jul 2012 #15

i can't give examples re the party, because no such thinking or efforts have been made "recently". HiPointDem Jul 2012 #16

Then what are you complaing about then? You yourself just admitted in a roundabout way that craigmatic Jul 2012 #19

admitted no such thing. i'm complaining as i've been complaining since reagan. you prefer HiPointDem Jul 2012 #23

I have no master. I just recognize progress when I see it even if it's small. craigmatic Jul 2012 #25

1 step forward, 2 steps back. par for the last 30 years. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #26

I worked, for years, in a union shop, with a guy who always voted republican. No matter how many demosincebirth Jul 2012 #8

Republicans use this welfare cheating to frame the argument and gather up those who believe it then Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #31

I don't think people ever vote against what they BELEIVE are their own interests, hughee99 Jul 2012 #9

+1 HiPointDem Jul 2012 #11

It is all about the goal of confusing them Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #32

Every time I try to read his stuff, I keep thinking of Elephants. n/t hughee99 Jul 2012 #35

Why do some people THINK they know kctim Jul 2012 #10

Is having clean water and clean air in everyone's best interest? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #12

no. not in the corporatists' interest. if there's universal clean water, who will pay for HiPointDem Jul 2012 #17

But eventually they'll run out of that. They'll end up covered in their own shit. Unless Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #20

no they won't. kill the underclass, problem solved. the history of the ruling class is written in HiPointDem Jul 2012 #22

Wait wait wait. You're saying if the water becomes polluted beyond consumption Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #24

Depends at what cost kctim Jul 2012 #18

I replied directly to your silly little comment. Which by the way didn't address dick. Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #21

My comment wasn't the OP now was it? kctim Jul 2012 #27

I wasn't replying to the OP was I? I was addressing your broad brush comment. Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #28

""Durp, you eggheads with yer fancy booklerin' and shit...." Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #34

It's an argument that assumes its premise; in what way are NAFTA (or the upcomming TPP) Romulox Jul 2012 #13

they are completely hostile, and anti-worker. and the 'workers are soooo stuuuuupid' take is HiPointDem Jul 2012 #14

After your BIZARRE attacks on me, I no longer believe you are sincere in this matter. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #38

Because, at least according to Democrats, MadHound Jul 2012 #33

For most people that is the only option. TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #36

+1. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #37

Democrats, including the President, support TPP. Might as well go firebag it with Romney! Romulox Jul 2012 #39