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karynnj

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127. This is such a welcome op!

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 04:48 PM

Apr 2017

We all know that 2015/2016 were divisive years here during the primaries, just as in all other primaries. After the election, things here have become a huge mess.

Both sides have to recognize that we lost power and we need to fight to preserve as much as we can and to build hope and a positive message to win seats in 2018 -- and the Presidency and hopefully more seats in 2020. I realize that beyond that huge loss, which we all share, many lost the dream of a President Hillary Clinton that they might have held since 1992!

Every day, I see threads blasting Bernie Sanders for one offense or another. At times, I sense that some here are almost angrier at him than at Trump. This means that his supporters and others who value his voice are pushed to defend him -- and, in many cases, to respond in kind attacking the Democrat they support. We are tearing the board apart -- and it is us doing it - not trolls!

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This board is absolutely unreadable and it's not even an election year. [View all] Barack_America Apr 2017 OP

Thanks for this JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #1

I don't support anti abortion candidates. boston bean Apr 2017 #2

Okay. Are you being asked to vote for one? Barack_America Apr 2017 #4

In a way, yes I am. boston bean Apr 2017 #6

In what way? dumbcat Apr 2017 #17

I am a member of the Democratic Party. boston bean Apr 2017 #23

Another one issue candidate CajunBlazer Apr 2017 #124

I am not a one issue voter. But thanks anyways. boston bean Apr 2017 #128

Okay then, what are your answers to my questions? CajunBlazer Apr 2017 #129

I vote for democrats. boston bean Apr 2017 #130

Okay then, CajunBlazer Apr 2017 #132

She already stated unequivocally... and I quote... BrooklynTech Apr 2017 #137

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #160

So there is a need for Brooklyn to speak for Boston now? CajunBlazer Apr 2017 #163

If you want to have a private conversation there is a way to do that. MGKrebs Apr 2017 #231

I imagine you are a Southerner. moriah Apr 2017 #153

I don't recall asking you for your opinion, but ... CajunBlazer Apr 2017 #168

Well, bless your heart... moriah Apr 2017 #171

Well, bless your little heart CajunBlazer Apr 2017 #172

Apologies, you've built up a great post count and I presumed.. moriah Apr 2017 #175

No apologies necessary CajunBlazer Apr 2017 #197

Do you also feel this way about other issues? athena Apr 2017 #202

+1 & Burn! fleabiscuit Apr 2017 #218

Although I don't agree with you, I respect that LakeArenal Apr 2017 #24

I did once also - in 2016 DeeDeeNY Apr 2017 #63

An important point. Ligyron Apr 2017 #94

Tim Kaine is pro choice. brer cat Apr 2017 #122

In his own words quakerboy Apr 2017 #198

"The right role for government brer cat Apr 2017 #206

Because you knew you'd still get more from that candidate than the OTHER!! 7962 Apr 2017 #116

+ 1 xoxo musette_sf Apr 2017 #20

By anti abortion candidate, what do you mean? karynnj Apr 2017 #139

Tim Kaine. Agschmid Apr 2017 #224

Tim Kaine is not anti-abortion. athena Apr 2017 #230

K&R mvd Apr 2017 #3

He should be the focus, not anyone raging for the resistance Heartstrings Apr 2017 #19

LOL LOL Lib Apr 2017 #31

He is a Democratic figure according to this site mvd Apr 2017 #43

Yes. And the rules state no bashing members of the "Democratic coalition." Beartracks Apr 2017 #84

Thank you.👍🏽 HootieMcBoob Apr 2017 #112

So if I say I love Bernie but don't think he LOL Lib Apr 2017 #164

What do you consider Bernie Bashing? LOL Lib Apr 2017 #125

don't fall for it ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #131

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #145

Yes. Good public service announcement. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #151

Wrong! LOL Lib Apr 2017 #167

Clap Clap. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #186

It's bad you missed it, it was very good. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #188

I am Suuuure it was, nt sheshe2 Apr 2017 #192

Here is your fail burger for the day professor. LOL Lib Apr 2017 #166

Hey I have an idea. MGKrebs Apr 2017 #234

Listen to Admiral Ackbar! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #189

lol, excellent ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #233

He's not a Dem but we sure need votes from his followers - Dem or not ! ciaobaby Apr 2017 #148

"His followers" is an interesting way of putting that. fleabiscuit Apr 2017 #220

Please don't forget active measures/trolls/provocateurs. Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #5

Thanks for this reminder. Big Blue Marble Apr 2017 #11

They are out in force on Facebook. airmid Apr 2017 #86

Who, on our side, swallowed the fake news? Cary Apr 2017 #177

It's more than fake news, though. It's drowning Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #184

Vote Democratic Cary Apr 2017 #195

and don't forget that infuriating Sanders primary voters to sit out the general... Blue Ridge Virginia Apr 2017 #193

Welcome to DU. I too suspect Russian trolls and bots were and are at work. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2017 #205

I've resorted to trashing threads with various keywords. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #7

For now I'm trashing "Bernie" and "sanders" Mosby Apr 2017 #16

I just sat on my second jury of today leftynyc Apr 2017 #22

It's about time for my second Mosby Apr 2017 #27

First one this morning leftynyc Apr 2017 #103

I've been on 10 or 12 in the last few weeks OriginalGeek Apr 2017 #95

I hadn't really been taking note leftynyc Apr 2017 #106

I'm due as well. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #113

Me too. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #52

I've been on and off Mendocino Apr 2017 #53

I've been doing that for a while, but often I still have to trash threads. Squinch Apr 2017 #56

and it's not his supporters starting most of the threads. nt m-lekktor Apr 2017 #85

I get the 'divisive group attacks' one all the time. wildeyed Apr 2017 #180

Thank You!!! elfin Apr 2017 #8

Yea I pretty much got my ass handed to me when I stated to "stop now"... Heartstrings Apr 2017 #13

I find full timers posting the same thing everyday all day. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #93

Apparently not to some. I've got ONE that follows me all the time. 7962 Apr 2017 #123

Well, I am sure we could compare lists and Voila! There it is! LakeArenal Apr 2017 #134

I know the one you mean melman Apr 2017 #211

Sad. Making themselves feel better by bullying. JudyM Apr 2017 #181

Many of the most prolific posters melman Apr 2017 #212

Yes, I saw one with A LOT of posts, claim LakeArenal Apr 2017 #229

Thank you for a voice of reason... nt Heartstrings Apr 2017 #9

Core principles matter BainsBane Apr 2017 #10

+ 1 xoxo musette_sf Apr 2017 #18

You'll never find me declaring that women's rights are a distraction. Barack_America Apr 2017 #21

Core principles are great, necessary even... LakeArenal Apr 2017 #136

Absolutely. ehrnst Apr 2017 #46

and economic justice BainsBane Apr 2017 #48

"Women's rights are human rights, and human rights are women's rights." athena Apr 2017 #232

Because we care, we don't easily forgive and forget real or imagined rivalries. Orsino Apr 2017 #12

And to our inevitable defeat. Barack_America Apr 2017 #25

You will find that even if we are warned, ehrnst Apr 2017 #50

There's been a very strong divisive element introduced lately. ananda Apr 2017 #14

I believe that divisive element was intentional. ehrnst Apr 2017 #51

Asking onesself who benefits from a thing quakerboy Apr 2017 #200

Agree ananda Apr 2017 #223

We don't have to compromise on human rights. Period. JTFrog Apr 2017 #15

Fortunately for me, I didn't. Barack_America Apr 2017 #26

Well said! retrowire Apr 2017 #28

"C'mon DUers, we're better than this. We're smarter than this."--And gosh darn, people LIKE us! nt tblue37 Apr 2017 #29

Change is hard and systems resist change Fiendish Thingy Apr 2017 #30

There is no economic justice without social justice. ehrnst Apr 2017 #73

Yes, many get hung up on social justice issues Fiendish Thingy Apr 2017 #196

And there you go again discounting the rights of other people. stevenleser Apr 2017 #213

Proof is harder Steven Maurer Apr 2017 #109

Good points. And even if they weren't, I'd rather lose than throw women, LGBT, POC, Latinos or stevenleser Apr 2017 #210

Don't feed the troll. PDittie Apr 2017 #146

Who is the Troll? (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #159

The only people who can do anything about it don't seem to care. n/t QC Apr 2017 #32

Excellent Thread Leith Apr 2017 #33

Thanks for this. zentrum Apr 2017 #34

I agree with the unreadable part frazzled Apr 2017 #35

I see your point, but... Barack_America Apr 2017 #44

Thank you. Very well said. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #62

Great post! This is it! Stop the post in which Sanders id made out to be some lunamagica Apr 2017 #75

Thats not "what started the whole thing" OnionPatch Apr 2017 #97

Bernie Ligyron Apr 2017 #144

This. Thank you, VERY well said. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #152

+1 KTM Apr 2017 #240

This mirrors to a T how I feel about it all. thanks. JHan Apr 2017 #77

This is kind of a perfect post regarding the subject. Control-Z Apr 2017 #98

Yes! Thank you. betsuni Apr 2017 #149

Consider how the Ukrainian Server Farm Trolls feel about your statement. byronius Apr 2017 #36

Heh. Barack_America Apr 2017 #176

Yep if the Democratic Party was working we would be in control askyagerz Apr 2017 #37

The ability to truly listen. That is a very, very valuable trait in a politiican. ehrnst Apr 2017 #58

I disagree DownriverDem Apr 2017 #65

And how is that going to work askyagerz Apr 2017 #81

Oh THAT was reason!! and not ehrnst Apr 2017 #157

Hear hear! Duppers Apr 2017 #89

He's stepped into the tent? Control-Z Apr 2017 #108

You worried about Bernie? askyagerz Apr 2017 #110

I guess I should have used Control-Z Apr 2017 #133

YES!!! (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #158

When did he make the switch? Control-Z Apr 2017 #162

What I wonder though if some of these people trying to stir shit up are really even Democrats? cstanleytech Apr 2017 #38

Bingo! They're out in full force. The evidence is in plain sight. Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #104

Agree. JudyM Apr 2017 #39

A slight improvement will be to have to GD, one for general and one for politics question everything Apr 2017 #40

Good point tiredtoo Apr 2017 #41

Only seeing "purity demands" from one side. ehrnst Apr 2017 #42

Do you disapprove of all career politicians or just Bernie? SalviaBlue Apr 2017 #138

Just the ones who dismiss issues that don't directly affect ehrnst Apr 2017 #156

That's what I thought. SalviaBlue Apr 2017 #190

"one side"?? panader0 Apr 2017 #191

It is time mercuryblues Apr 2017 #45

Maybe more DownriverDem Apr 2017 #49

Okay, I'm missing something. What human right was omitted from the Dem platform... Barack_America Apr 2017 #54

Thank you! DownriverDem Apr 2017 #47

It's one thing to discuss various sometimes differing strategies, it another thing entirely Fla Dem Apr 2017 #55

purity tests lies Apr 2017 #57

Well said. Barack_America Apr 2017 #69

The "Toilets" you disparage allow people to go to work, school and out on public.... bettyellen Apr 2017 #78

sigh lies Apr 2017 #83

So you want to force dem candidates only to refuse funding while superpacs still do whatever the bettyellen Apr 2017 #96

This has to be said and repeated often, thank you. elmac Apr 2017 #59

Oh get a grip! vlyons Apr 2017 #60

"Show some respect" Barack_America Apr 2017 #72

Sure it is vlyons Apr 2017 #80

Because I have been a member for almost 13 years... Barack_America Apr 2017 #102

Some folks just seem to be baiters.. They are masters at it. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #120

I know it's hard, but PDittie Apr 2017 #147

Part of it is demoralization. randome Apr 2017 #61

I like what you posted. This thread's been making me sprinkleeninow Apr 2017 #209

There's basically the TWO parties Plucketeer Apr 2017 #64

Those two parties DownriverDem Apr 2017 #70

Morans didn't wonder Plucketeer Apr 2017 #79

In fairness, that's a conservative trait. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #121

I'm with you on the sports thing. Ligyron Apr 2017 #142

LOL! Plucketeer Apr 2017 #161

Absolutely true. Greybnk48 Apr 2017 #66

Thank You. Bettie Apr 2017 #67

Thank you for this! It indeed has been unreadable. PatsFan87 Apr 2017 #68

Thank you! redwitch Apr 2017 #71

Healthcare is economics. Hope you are smart enough to get that. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2017 #74

It was unreadable until I increased the font size. I agree with you 100% alfredo Apr 2017 #76

It was a divisive primary. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #82

Well put Lordquinton Apr 2017 #88

I understand you mvd Apr 2017 #91

Yeah, if he threw his hat in, in 2020, I'd look for an alternative. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #101

I don't think you can rightfully deny that Hillary bashing was a proximate cause Cary Apr 2017 #114

Hm, they eat their own a little bit too. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #117

He voted for Hillary Clinton Cary Apr 2017 #143

Fair enough. Yeah, I stuck to my guns and voted Hillary too but it's not meaningful. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #155

One can support their candidate and remain positive about Democrats Cary Apr 2017 #173

"which is going blue no matter what" quakerboy Apr 2017 #215

* this friend speaks my mind quakerboy Apr 2017 #214

Agreed 100% nt riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #87

Another 100% agreement. Duppers Apr 2017 #90

thank you. barbtries Apr 2017 #92

As I recognize the guilty ones madokie Apr 2017 #99

+1 PDittie Apr 2017 #150

Thank you! We have got to learn to pull together, despite our differences Thekaspervote Apr 2017 #100

I wish there could be a single forum to hash this out. nolabear Apr 2017 #105

I think there's some effective trolling underway caraher Apr 2017 #107

You make great points that I have been trying to make for years Cary Apr 2017 #111

Worst shape since reconstruction zipplewrath Apr 2017 #115

Is that you Barack?! KPN Apr 2017 #118

I am fortunate to live in a purple district which was once red. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2017 #119

Awesome that you're doing that. Barack_America Apr 2017 #185

K & R n/t TubbersUK Apr 2017 #126

This is such a welcome op! karynnj Apr 2017 #127

I recently trashed General Discussion to avoid the nonstop barrage of foolishness klook Apr 2017 #135

I think that's the idea. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #140

Totally agree!! SalviaBlue Apr 2017 #141

GOP paid trolls. applegrove Apr 2017 #154

herding cats is a kpete Apr 2017 #165

From todays civic discussion. Tip from President Obama: "Listening to understand rather than Sunlei Apr 2017 #169

Completely agree. Very sad to see what is going on. Tatiana Apr 2017 #170

I agree 100%, but ... left-of-center2012 Apr 2017 #174

Why are there two sides? liberal N proud Apr 2017 #178

What exactly is the definition of a "purity" vote? lexington filly Apr 2017 #179

What floors me, and I do mean floors me... Barack_America Apr 2017 #182

+ 1,000,000 beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #187

+ another 1,000,000 million. It's selective outrage, divisive, and aimed at Bernie solely nt riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #194

Curious. None of them have answered... SMC22307 Apr 2017 #217

I can't speak for these "them" that you're talking about... Steven Maurer Apr 2017 #219

Very Correct Rilgin Apr 2017 #225

Well, to be fair... Steven Maurer Apr 2017 #235

A fair point Rilgin Apr 2017 #236

That's an excellent summation of how it went down. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #237

I would be happy to have my Blue Dog Democrat back in Congress mtngirl47 Apr 2017 #183

That's not a bug--that's a feature. n/t QC Apr 2017 #199

FINALLY!! Someone spoke for me. Thank you!! secondwind Apr 2017 #201

Echoing what you said. Enoki33 Apr 2017 #203

This board is clearly infected annabanana Apr 2017 #204

Dems have been their own worst enemies relayerbob Apr 2017 #207

The same shit has been going on in one form or another here, as long as I can remember. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #208

Big K and R. Beautifully put! nt Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #216

We should never compromise on rights where lives are at stake. Liberty Belle Apr 2017 #221

Jeebus to Betsy watoos Apr 2017 #222

your construct of "pro-life/pro abortion" is a tell. Demit Apr 2017 #227

This is why I stopped reading DU for the last month. Else You Are Mad Apr 2017 #226

"Humbly submitted" Roy Rolling Apr 2017 #228

Well Said! NobodyHere Apr 2017 #238

+1 KTM Apr 2017 #239