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ehrnst

(32,640 posts) Mon Apr 24, 2017, 07:24 PM Apr 2017

"Once you get off of the social issues abortion, gay rights, guns and into the economic issues," [View all]

he says, "there is a lot more agreement than the pundits understand." Bernie Sanders, July 9, 2015
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/weekend-with-bernie-sanders-20150709

Get off? "social issues" and not "healthcare and basic employment protections that are integral to any economic justice?"

Some of us have been known about his POV for years.

“These are guys getting hung up on gay marriage issues,” Sanders told Schultz. “They’re getting hung up on abortion issues. And it is time we started focusing on the economic issues that bring us together: Defending Social Security, defending Medicare, making sure that Medicaid is not cut, that veterans’ programs are not cut.” Bernie Sanders 2013

ttp://www.rawstory.com/2013/10/bernie-sanders-tells-ed-schultz-southern-democrats-are-tired-of-being-abandoned-by-the-party/

"Getting hung up?"

Is that really any kind of support of economic issues specific to LGBTQs and women?

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"Once you get off of the social issues abortion, gay rights, guns and into the economic issues," [View all] ehrnst Apr 2017 OP

Sorry, human rights are non-negotiable shenmue Apr 2017 #1

the pyramid of needs. kentuck Apr 2017 #2

where is mercuryblues Apr 2017 #4

Physiological needs. Kber Apr 2017 #11

Bingo Hekate Apr 2017 #33

Women, LGBTQs and people of color ehrnst Apr 2017 #17

He didn't say "white" working class. He's talking about working and middle class. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #31

I disagree. Caliman73 Apr 2017 #39

I disagree. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #52

So let's push those women and minorities who happen to be at the top of the pyramid athena Apr 2017 #24

We're actually the ones whose base of the pyramid needs are being sacrificed so that Vesper Apr 2017 #26

Bodily integrity falls within physiological and safety needs, Mello attacks those. Vesper Apr 2017 #25

Excellent point. athena Apr 2017 #27

Even worse, what this right winger has proposed is a 20 week abortion ban. Vesper Apr 2017 #32

Hahahahahaha! kcr Apr 2017 #69

He summed up... NCTraveler Apr 2017 #3

In other words ehrnst Apr 2017 #10

I think one of the things I'm trying to say... NCTraveler Apr 2017 #14

Refusing to join the party, but wanting to run its platform is BS. ehrnst Apr 2017 #18

Very well said. Your last paragraph is spot on. Hekate Apr 2017 #41

BS is now BS to me. 58Sunliner Apr 2017 #64

LOL Skittles Apr 2017 #5

+1 n/t jaysunb Apr 2017 #6

Bingo. (NT) ehrnst Apr 2017 #7

Nicely put! Orrex Apr 2017 #80

Why anyone thinks this clumsy, outdated message -- touted by someone who isn't even a Democrat -- RedWedge Apr 2017 #8

It's going to BackFire Cha Apr 2017 #56

I hope that will happen soon kcr Apr 2017 #66

Because the M$M is invested in the Controversary.. Cha Apr 2017 #73

OK, here's what I think he's getting at. ananda Apr 2017 #9

you cannot avoid it, prejudice shapes how resources are shared. JHan Apr 2017 #12

Hear, hear ehrnst Apr 2017 #16

Except my African American step dad still gets stopped in my mostly white town Kber Apr 2017 #13

Yah, you'd think that when people have money, the social issues would have fallen into place.(nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #19

That's the central flaw in classic Marxist philosophy. "Identity" doesn't disappear... Hekate Apr 2017 #44

Right? And no matter how affluent you are as a PoC, you get "the conversation" as a kid. JHan Apr 2017 #37

"... then the social issues also fall into place." ehrnst Apr 2017 #15

"Trickle down social justice" is a wonderfully accurate phrase. Hekate Apr 2017 #45

+1 betsuni Apr 2017 #54

It's "trickle-down economics", too. athena Apr 2017 #55

Like wealthy republicans who have gay hate? Think all women belong at home lunasun Apr 2017 #34

That's a great utopia, but these hates have always been there Vesper Apr 2017 #43

How do economic stresses cause homophobia? yardwork Apr 2017 #46

He has made that claim before, only more elegantly. kcr Apr 2017 #51

If you have to read between the lines then what good is his word? Making assumptions 58Sunliner Apr 2017 #63

He has been saying this same exact thing since 1968. boston bean Apr 2017 #20

Maybe it will Cha Apr 2017 #57

I'd say this was unbelievable NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #21

Interesting fact--Northern Ireland is covered by the NHS Starry Messenger Apr 2017 #22

excellent point ++++++++ JHan Apr 2017 #38

This is incredibly offensive. athena Apr 2017 #23

He's not saying give up those issues. He's talking about focus. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #28

So we need to focus on medicare and social security and basic economics Vesper Apr 2017 #40

So we need to focus on medicare and social security and basic economics Vesper Apr 2017 #42

Focusing on economic issues is not any more narrow than focusing on social issues. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #50

Prejudice shapes how resources are distributed JHan Apr 2017 #53

You can't legislate against prejudice. Laws address discrimination already. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #61

Yeah everything is "done" JHan Apr 2017 #65

We'll have to agree to disagree. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #76

The social issues are not separable from the economic issues. Vesper Apr 2017 #67

We WERE focused on economic issues, along with equity issues. That's why 75% of blue collar workers pnwmom Apr 2017 #68

The daily two minutes hate. killbotfactory Apr 2017 #29

Talk to BS.. it's his quote. Cha Apr 2017 #36

I'm glad context isn't a thing anymore. killbotfactory Apr 2017 #72

Ridiculous. Go back and read Bernie's very own words. Forget the campaign: the man has been... Hekate Apr 2017 #48

15 minimum wage laws only target white men who lost manufacturing jobs? killbotfactory Apr 2017 #70

Then you should be pleased to know that 75% of blue collar workers supported Hillary and the Dems. pnwmom Apr 2017 #71

If only anybody knew the electoral college existed. killbotfactory Apr 2017 #75

The electoral college didn't overturn the popular vote a SINGLE time in the entire 20th century. pnwmom Apr 2017 #77

The man has lived in Vermont for the past 50 years and has been in office for 35 years... GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #30

Pesky Human Rights.. FTS! Cha Apr 2017 #35

After reading the posts, it is very clear that many people have no idea what cost HRC the election. tonyt53 Apr 2017 #47

In nearly every swing state, voters preferred Hillary Clinton on the economy. betsuni Apr 2017 #49

" most are new to the Democratic Party and do not understand that the Party will always protect 58Sunliner Apr 2017 #59

The majority of people whose biggest concern was the economy voted for HRC. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #62

Well, you're one of those who doesn't understand. pnwmom Apr 2017 #74

Yeah, when you can't get a job because you are black, can't work outside the home because nikibatts Apr 2017 #78

Why should BS "captain the Democratic Ship"..anyway? Cha Apr 2017 #58

Jesus. LexVegas Apr 2017 #60

Those issues are REPUBLICAN issues JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #79