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GulfCoast66

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20. I say this with all respect...
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 08:42 PM
Apr 2017

But please read the long history of the term Progressive and the progressive movement as a whole. It is why I do not use it to define my believes. I prefer liberal.

Progressivism was originally all about the economy and making the playing field more level for the little guy. Supporting strong Unions, strong government regulation of business, especially big business and insuring that the most needy are not forgotten. All worthy goals.

However, over the last 125 years progressives have been very quick to abandon social causes, if they ever espoused them in the first place.

That has created tension in the left of American politics for over 70 years and is at the heart of LBJ's statement that by signing the Civil Rights Act he was losing the south for generations. He well knew that had he not done so the South and Wallace Democrats would have supported the great society. It would have only helped whites.

Now I realize that many people who describe themselves as progressives in 2017 are fully on board with civil and social rights. But the last year and the migration of many DU members to other sites that do not value civil and social rights as much as we liberals proved to me that there is still a 'economy only' contingent of the progressive movement alive and well today.

And it is my opinion that many of them have made there way back here in the last 3-4 weeks.

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We must protect these rights shenmue Apr 2017 #1
This line says it all Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #2
I didn't realize you had been a Bernie supporter BainsBane Apr 2017 #3
So much of what he proposed , I was in favor of, we all were as in the Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #4
Which Thom are you referring to? BainsBane Apr 2017 #8
Hartmann Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #37
A majority of the country supports him on those issues, generally. killbotfactory Apr 2017 #34
There should be no fight over the right to choose. Alpeduez21 Apr 2017 #5
The author makes the point that BainsBane Apr 2017 #10
Anyone that's anti-choice isn't a progressive. tammywammy Apr 2017 #12
Nor do I BainsBane Apr 2017 #18
I say this with all respect... GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #20
You say respect but followed up with an assumption that I'm uneducated. tammywammy Apr 2017 #22
Geez GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #25
Your history is inaccurate, but I agree about current progressives. BainsBane Apr 2017 #23
You obviously are more educated on the issue that I am. GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #26
And it is the refusal to acknowledge BainsBane Apr 2017 #28
Additionally, LBJ didn't divide the left BainsBane Apr 2017 #27
I hesitate to even discuss this issue because it is a parent you're more studied that I GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #31
Can't help 'our'selves elleng Apr 2017 #6
Some of us actually care about principle BainsBane Apr 2017 #11
Most of us actually care about principle. elleng Apr 2017 #13
And here you are BainsBane Apr 2017 #17
Not only have you missed it, elleng Apr 2017 #19
"..Arguing that pro-choice activists constitute a firing squad for failing to acquiesce to the Cha Apr 2017 #21
Some of us see the man quite clearly. Vesper Apr 2017 #36
Yeah.. principle over anyone trying to power grab.. no Cha Apr 2017 #15
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This was signalled during the primaries. LisaM Apr 2017 #7
I've read other comments by him to that effect BainsBane Apr 2017 #9
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I've said it before and I'll say it again NobodyHere Apr 2017 #29
That's pretty much the author's point BainsBane Apr 2017 #32
Who said anything about creating a new standard? NobodyHere Apr 2017 #33
Are you fucking serious? BainsBane Apr 2017 #35
Isn't being against Wall Street part of the current standard? NobodyHere Apr 2017 #39
Great article and explains where we are better than any other...thanks. K&R Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #38
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