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JHan

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33. He cannot do as he wants as outreach chair, he is part of a team.
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 08:43 PM
Apr 2017

He may not wish to join the democratic party but he must understand that it is not just about him.

He should not be applying purity tests selectively, except when it comes to a woman's autonomy and gun control. He has never sold himself as a pragmatist yet wants to decide which issues we should be pragmatic on. How is pointing this out divisiveness? I don't need Bernie to tell me that healthcare is important. There are democrats who have been toiling in the fields for DECADES on these issues, getting real work done, and despite Obama facing over 300 filibusters from the GOP on everything from healthcare to infrastructure, to the minimum wage, we still think the problem is with us? How did this become a legitimate view? How did the democratic party become equated with Republicans when we are nothing like the Republicans in terms of philosophy or approach to governance? This only helps our detractors.

I am not asking for blind allegiance, I want us to get a clue and not spite ourselves while seeking to gain ground electorally. Ideology and strategy have been conflated - that doesn't help the party, it helps the ideologues. And it is tiresome for me as someone who is not a purist.

As if the shenanigans from last year wasn't enough, he's been sniping at the Democratic party - the only party strong enough to counter the GOP, affecting enthusiasm. The other effect is no connection being made between causes and solutions. It has become about individuals. I want all our Democrats to be hugely popular, I want our allies to be popular as well, what I don't want is the sniping fire and smearing of Democrats from the left. If it continues we are looking at a two term Trump presidency and a supreme court lost to us for over a generation.

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exactly!! niyad Apr 2017 #1
AMEN -eom Justitia Apr 2017 #2
I found out that the Niles Ohio school system does not offer paid maternity leave. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #3
They're not as clever as they believe themselves to be. I've seen this shit before... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #4
Me too...this is ridiculous. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #10
Not only abortion, but birth control, privacy, contraception..... LisaM Apr 2017 #5
Its both. lovemydogs Apr 2017 #6
x1000!!!!! romana Apr 2017 #7
completely agree bigtree Apr 2017 #8
Abortion & the 13th Amendment CrispyQ Apr 2017 #9
Very good. Ligyron Apr 2017 #25
Yes. Margaret Atwood wrote a novel about that Silver Gaia Apr 2017 #28
But white guys are feeling neglected. LexVegas Apr 2017 #11
Just So Me. Apr 2017 #12
k&r Starry Messenger Apr 2017 #13
It's not an issue to be dismissed. The situation wasn't just men, though, it was groups that wanted JudyM Apr 2017 #14
No it's about the defense of this guy La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2017 #15
It's not just men defending him though...? Including Pelosi, etc. Absolutely not an ideal candidate JudyM Apr 2017 #17
Is pelosi belittling the importance of abortion, La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2017 #18
. JudyM Apr 2017 #21
No, I'm saying the party can't be a cult around what sanders approves and doesn't approve of La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2017 #22
He can do what he wants... and it's our choice whether we like his general direction and can forgive JudyM Apr 2017 #24
He cannot do as he wants as outreach chair, he is part of a team. JHan Apr 2017 #33
Family planning impacts every single issue you just listed. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #27
I consider it, first and foremost, a civil liberties issue that has economic associations. phleshdef Apr 2017 #16
Rec. nt LexVegas Apr 2017 #19
"It may not be economics for men"? What should be one of the biggest pro choice points, but we brewens Apr 2017 #20
Name one patriarchal system that hasn't/doesn't suck Rural_Progressive Apr 2017 #23
All aspects of Family Planning, including Abortion are a bright red line for me. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #26
Anyone who dismisses women's reproductive health care and childbearing as a "social issue" ehrnst Apr 2017 #31
YES, YES, YES, a thousand times YES! +++ Silver Gaia Apr 2017 #29
It's a health care issue, and anyone who advocates for health care should know that is an economic ehrnst Apr 2017 #30
Yup. But I suspect what we mean by economic issue is issue white men care about La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2017 #34
YES. a power play to keep MALE status. pansypoo53219 Apr 2017 #32
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