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In reply to the discussion: "Once you get off of the social issues abortion, gay rights, guns and into the economic issues," [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Trickle down social justice. That's where Bernie gets it wrong.
So why haven't those social issues fallen into place in Socialist leaning European countries? Strong wages, affordable health care haven't gotten rid of nationalism, sexism, racism, xenophobia.
We also had a whole lot of the economic boon in the US post World War 2 - but there was rampant sexism, racism, xenophobia - and the violence toward the civil rights movement sure didn't come from nowhere.
And in fact, nationalism can flourish when people have the time and money to worry about if they really wanted a diverse neighborhood. Believe me - in my neighborhood, some of the people with the most money are the ones disparaging the "brown faces looking out from the school yearbook" as a sign that there are "illegals" here.
The problem is that a lot of data suggests that countries with more robust welfare states tend to have stronger far-right movements. Providing white voters with higher levels of economic security does not tamp down their anxieties about race and immigration or, more precisely, it doesnt do it powerfully enough. For some, it frees them to worry less about what its in their wallet and more about who may be moving into their neighborhoods or competing with them for jobs.
Take Britains Labour Party, which swung to the populist left by electing Jeremy Corbyn, a socialist who has proposed renationalizing Britains rail system, as its leader in 2015. The results have been disastrous: the Brexit vote in favor of leaving the European Union, plummeting poll numbers for both Corbyn and his party, and a British political scene that is shifting notably to the right on issues of immigration and multiculturalism.
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Ironically, that could be because the European left is the victim of its own success. Ronald Inglehart, an eminent political scientist at the University of Michigan, argues that the combination of rapid economic growth and a robust welfare state have provided voters with enough economic security that they could start prioritizing issues beyond the distribution of wealth issues like abortion, same-sex marriage, and, most crucially, immigration.
So its not that European social democrats failed to sell their economic message, or that economic redistribution became unpopular. Its that economic issues receded in importance at the same time as Europe was experiencing a massive, unprecedented wave of nonwhite, non-Christian immigration.
That, in turn, brought some of the most politically potent nonmaterial issues race, identity, and nationalism to the forefront of Western voters mind. How comfortable were they, really, with multicultural, multifaith societies?
http://www.vox.com/world/2017/3/13/14698812/bernie-trump-corbyn-left-wing-populism
No, I won't tolerate the rights of women and LGBTQs being put aside in the interest of getting conservative, government hating white male to "buy in" to neosocialism, especially when there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of upset at the ongoing similar situation of women in the workplace, especially women of color, or working class people of color.
The rest of us don't want to return to the 50's, thanks.