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In reply to the discussion: "Once you get off of the social issues abortion, gay rights, guns and into the economic issues," [View all]Vesper
(229 posts)That's what people keep missing, and they're not about "smaller groups of people". Not having healthcare because Republicans blocked your access to a necessary abortion can indeed kill you. Not getting equal pay because you're female (a "small group of people" who make up the majority of the population) can also kill you, especially if your lower paycheck is why you had to wait so long to afford the out of pocket costs for an abortion and all the other hoops that the GOP makes you jump through if you're poor, in a rural area etc.
Yeah, it's the economy stupid, and that involves things like gender, race etc. which is part of that stupid economy for "small groups of people" that together make up the majority of the population. Dismissing us insignificant and stupid really is a bad look for those pretending to be populists and seeking economic equality or progressive/liberal credentials.
I don't need you to "give my words back to me" they were true before they were condescendingly deprived of truth and facts before they were handed back to me.
As I stated, Social security and medicare are based on payroll taxes, so women and minorities are at a greater disadvantage when our issues are silenced by condescending people who don't seem to understand truth when it's handed to them in the first place.
Democrats can indeed walk and chew gum at the same time and we don't need de-truthed words handed down to us from those who aren't so much doing what Democrats have always done, fight for basic human rights, understanding that economic issues cannot be separated from gender and race issues.
I have given you back my own words putting the truth back in them, I'd suggest another attempt at understanding that truth.
I'm not sure why you think low income people, single parents, married parents or anyone else is dumb enough to think that reproductive freedom, which they have to deal with on an everyday basis is not about them, but only about "sally down the street and her abortions". Honestly, the tone deaf ridiculousness of silencing people and the sheer ignorant condescension is appalling. Do you not understand that low income people are planning their families, worried about their pregnancies, wanted and otherwise, and concerned that "Sally down the street" is their friend, daughter, sister or cousin?
They know that "Sally down the street" is in the same predicament that they are where their employers won't pay for birth control, will fire them if pregnant and that they can lose their health insurance with pregnancy as a pre-existing condition, so how do you think she's going to take a sick day, or a day off work without pay, when she's pregnant against her will and still has kids to feed and parents to take care off and can't afford daycare?
I don't even know what to say about that attack on poor people and the condescending thing you said about how they're selfish and don't care about transgender people literally being beaten to death and raped in bathrooms. It's almost like it's a foreign concept that these are our friends, family members, co workers and neighbors and that we don't think dismissing their basic human rights is something that poor people are wont to do.
it would appear to some that all issues do not matter, and that they project their own carelessness about the realities that many are facing, where their literal lives and health are in danger on a daily basis don't signify to some, who are only concerned about their own social security and medicare, not about how that's going to affect anyone else at all. I guess if one doesn't care if those poor people with unequal pay and who will be killed for going to the bathroom or unplanned pregnancies that kill them at higher rates than their wealthier white neighbors, or whose planned pregnancies go horribly wrong, won't live to be 65 when apparently they will matter, sorta.
It's time to figure out that economics includes parts that are uncomfortable for some older people to think about.
We do actually want to make the country better for its citizens, that's why we can't use those right wing talking points about "sally down the street" to dismiss the concerns of actual citizens of this country and not just a small group of people we think matter while dismissing all those groups that we condescend to.
Obama didn't ditch the social issues, he knew they were part and parcel of the economy, it's why he won "bigly". The economy is more than just social security and medicare and old people, stupid, as they should say if they want to give words back to people, in a way that's ACTUALLY true, and is being dismissed through a filter of Republican talking points. "Sally down the street" is a huge part of how we deal with the economy, Obama understood that bigly, it's why he wasn't stupid enough ignore the aspects that make up the economy.