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moriah

(8,312 posts)
54. Gag me with a forklift.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 11:03 AM
Apr 2017

If you're going to suggest the way Democrats should win elections is to throw equality and choice under the bus solely to appease the demographic you feel is so mistreated, I've got a bridge in Alaska to sell you that's really going places... and you can see Russia from there!

Fighting for economic justice and the ability for all workers to have a living wage, health care, family leave, paid sick leave, etc, helps everyone. And undoubtedly Democrats need to fight for those things.

But we can't stop there, or expect any Democrat or Progressive to stop there, either. We have to fix the fact that Lewis and Laura do far better at even getting callbacks with the same resume than Luis, Lamar, or Lakisha (who due to the effects of intersectionality ends up screwed over the most for failing to "whiten" their resume and is directed to worse jobs, where Laura might get offered a job not even in the system to get a more palatable "diversity" hire) to get that job with a living wage.

And even if Laura might seem to be doing rather well from the above, all of the five L names mentioned suffer if that job gets to decide what medical care Laura and Lakisha can receive, or if they care if Laura's spouse is Lisa. Or if Lewis used to be Louise. If nothing else, they have to work harder while Laura's on bedrest because her body couldn't handle another pregnancy so soon, or until they replace Lewis.

It doesn't have to be either-or. We can easily advocate for both economic and social justice, and recognize the two are so intertwined that they can't be separated. Anyone who just wants social issues and doesn't give a crap about economic justice should probably go to a different forum -- like a Libertarian training camp.

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Yes ... frazzled Apr 2017 #1
If we don't learn from history, we're gonna repeat it. ehrnst Apr 2017 #2
We have not learned from history yet. What makes anyone think we ever will? Doreen Apr 2017 #30
Which mistake? (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #34
Hitler whom trump is like. Doreen Apr 2017 #36
Most voters voted against him. (Nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #38
Yes, I realize that. It is our electoral college that screwed us and they are Doreen Apr 2017 #39
Thank you for all of this JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #3
Good point frazzled Apr 2017 #5
Very good point. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #8
That would be a great OP. Starry Messenger Apr 2017 #14
US Labor Unions were strong and growing into the 50's & 60's bigbrother05 Apr 2017 #52
I do not understand the factions mcar Apr 2017 #4
The Democratic Party platform says that it is neccessary to focus on both ehrnst Apr 2017 #6
I stand with the Democrats! mcar Apr 2017 #7
You and me both. ehrnst Apr 2017 #9
Disclaimer: I am a straight white male. needledriver Apr 2017 #10
but here's the thing dsc Apr 2017 #11
But that's "shitting" on policies ehrnst Apr 2017 #27
Notice how white Univ rapists get 3 months & black blue collar rapists get 30 years? Trickle Down. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #13
OK, what did I "shit on" again? ehrnst Apr 2017 #15
So, you got yours, right?...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #16
So I'm not the only one who picked up on that.... (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #26
So, are you saying that because things are fine where you work ehrnst Apr 2017 #19
No, I don't. needledriver Apr 2017 #20
Again, you seem to think that because these problems don't exist in your union workplace ehrnst Apr 2017 #22
Ah, context! needledriver Apr 2017 #24
So you agree that throwing social justice issues under the bus in the name of ehrnst Apr 2017 #25
Your rant about ehrnst Apr 2017 #35
I'd say it's a piece.... Adrahil Apr 2017 #44
Irrelevant issue, apparently... (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #51
Not referring to your situation. Strong, unbiased unions are a good thing. brush Apr 2017 #31
Trickle down social justice is an offensive concept needledriver Apr 2017 #40
Because A LOT of places do not do the same as the place you work at. Doreen Apr 2017 #32
Those things are great, but fixing working class economic struggle, by itself... moriah Apr 2017 #53
Indeed. The best treatise ever refuting 'trickle down' social justice PatrickforO Apr 2017 #12
Yes to all of this. And it isn't Bernie bashing to point this out. It's too important. kcr Apr 2017 #17
We might as well just chuck climate change into the "flexible" category. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #28
I'm a single issue voter, and that issue is climate change. Exilednight Apr 2017 #48
Then you understand why I consider it as non-negotiable as women's health care ehrnst Apr 2017 #50
Voodoo Social Justice dlk Apr 2017 #18
1000+ Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #21
k&r bigtree Apr 2017 #23
The difference maker between now and the 50's is the number of women working outside the home. tonyt53 Apr 2017 #29
So, your argument is Dems didn't taylor their arguments specifically to WHITE workers kcr Apr 2017 #33
In what way did Democrats "fail" us in November? ehrnst Apr 2017 #37
You do know those groups never vote for the Left as a majority right? forjusticethunders Apr 2017 #42
What is it that you think is unique about thes groups? Adrahil Apr 2017 #45
The group he won was 6-figure+ income-earners Starry Messenger Apr 2017 #49
Excellent refreshers for us all! Cha Apr 2017 #41
Excellent example of the kind of thinking that keeps costing us elections Kentonio Apr 2017 #43
So you favor trickle down social justice? Adrahil Apr 2017 #46
I think the entire premise is complete bullshit Kentonio Apr 2017 #47
Gag me with a forklift. moriah Apr 2017 #54
No-one is suggesting we throw equality and choice under the bus! Kentonio Apr 2017 #55
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