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csziggy

(34,120 posts)
25. So women'd rights get thrown under the bus?
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 11:10 PM
Apr 2017

Because the Democratic Party has been playing at turning away from one group after another for a while. Bill Clinton accepted "Don't ask, don't tell" and that delayed LGTB rights for years. In the 1950s and 60s, Democrats continued their acceptance of segregation and voting rights for AAs and the party is still hurting from that blind eye. In fact, that blind eye has continued to ignore voter suppression and I believe that is a major factor in the loss on November 8. Democrats have avoided doing anything about getting citizenship for undocumented people for years - Ronald Reagan did more for providing a path than many Democrats - and now we watch nearly silently while hundreds are brutally arrested, held with no rights at all, and deported to unimaginable conditions.

This is a very uncomfortable echo of what German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller wrote:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


NO ONE'S right should be ignored. Democrats need to fight for every single person without exception. By whining that we might lose if we don't give up one group or another's rights, we ARE losing them all NOW.
Good question. I'll await the answers. boston bean Apr 2017 #1
You and me both mercuryblues Apr 2017 #3
I am willing to give up left turn on red. pangaia Apr 2017 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author VOX Apr 2017 #2
It's only women's rights that are negotiable. athena Apr 2017 #4
+1 mercuryblues Apr 2017 #5
Same sort of situation in my mind. Zing Zing Zingbah Apr 2017 #16
Of course not n/t mercuryblues Apr 2017 #40
If you were actual human beings instead of incubators & ornaments, it wouldn't be an issue Orrex Apr 2017 #47
If the Republicans keep getting elected NobodyHere Apr 2017 #6
there is that attempt at shaming mercuryblues Apr 2017 #12
If you are so anxious to see the party adopt GOP positions? BainsBane Apr 2017 #24
+1 hamsterjill Apr 2017 #55
I'd rather vote for someone who agrees with me 75% of the time NobodyHere Apr 2017 #62
So women'd rights get thrown under the bus? csziggy Apr 2017 #25
Because it was always about priviledge BainsBane Apr 2017 #26
Yes indeed. For some, when actually called upon to take a stand on this issue... Orrex Apr 2017 #48
and to work furiously to normalize BainsBane Apr 2017 #56
Yes indeed. Quite chilling. (nt) Orrex Apr 2017 #58
We are losing them right now NobodyHere Apr 2017 #63
That's certainly a new way to rationalize a dramatic lack of convictions. LanternWaste Apr 2017 #61
None. tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #8
Thank you mercuryblues Apr 2017 #13
The fact that there is even... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #14
Glad you posted this...cheers. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #9
K & R!!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #10
K&R too. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #11
Not one. shraby Apr 2017 #15
Still nothing, eh? boston bean Apr 2017 #17
The democratic party is not supporting any candidates who are vowing to restrict reproductive rights killbotfactory Apr 2017 #18
"Can we focus on expanding rights" musette_sf Apr 2017 #19
It's not a trade-off killbotfactory Apr 2017 #37
Womens right are subverted mercuryblues Apr 2017 #45
Womens rights will not ne subverted by economically progressive ideas. Nt killbotfactory Apr 2017 #60
K&R! nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #20
One right I will never give up is the right to trash threads, including this one. Jersey Devil Apr 2017 #21
don't let the door mercuryblues Apr 2017 #42
My vote will always go to whatever weakens the power of Republicans cheapdate Apr 2017 #22
that's not the issue BainsBane Apr 2017 #28
My home state (TN) is completely controlled by lunatic Republicans. cheapdate Apr 2017 #35
By doing this mercuryblues Apr 2017 #43
The problem is the calls for unity come from those BainsBane Apr 2017 #23
Thank you! MLAA Apr 2017 #27
Difficult. EthanBlue Apr 2017 #29
My most passionate issues is LGBTQ rights LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #30
Outstanding response! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #32
Thank you. n/t QC Apr 2017 #33
Where's the rec button? Lordquinton Apr 2017 #36
That response deserves its own separate OP/thread. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2017 #38
Brilliant post. Kentonio Apr 2017 #39
Very well said Bettie Apr 2017 #41
Here is her platform on LBGTQ rights mercuryblues Apr 2017 #44
Thank you. Kaye_NY Apr 2017 #52
So what you are saying is that when the facts don't suit your opinion you wont listen? LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #65
Yes her full throated support has been impressive.... Egnever Apr 2017 #59
+1 beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #71
Everything I stated is a verifiable fact and nothing was misrepresented and I will prove it. LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #64
Another excellent response, thank you! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #70
No, thank YOU for the support! It is very much appreciated! Nt LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #85
You're very welcome. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #93
An excellent response. Thank you. -- When they go low, we go high! NurseJackie Apr 2017 #66
You go high by totally misrepresenting facts and telling untruths? That is not the high road. nt LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #67
I can tell you that I haven't had a post removed in this thread... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #69
Good qualifer Lordquinton Apr 2017 #79
Isn't it? Nt LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #86
Neither have I. LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #83
LOL NurseJackie Apr 2017 #88
... Lordquinton Apr 2017 #91
*snort* beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #92
From the link you referred us to: Curmudgeoness Apr 2017 #78
Great points! LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #84
A reminder LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #89
APPLAUSE excellent retrowire Apr 2017 #81
The TRUTH will set you free! Nt LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #87
Glad to see there is still some sanity afoot DefenseLawyer Apr 2017 #90
In just 100 days many rights have been put on the chopping block MedusaX Apr 2017 #31
But are Democrats mercuryblues Apr 2017 #46
Instead of giving up, I'll trade padfun Apr 2017 #34
As Democrats why would we want to give up any of those hard fought rights? SticksnStones Apr 2017 #49
Thank you for saying it so perfectly. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #50
No back alleys and Skidmore Apr 2017 #51
I will never vote for an anti-choice candidate. CrispyQ Apr 2017 #53
I'm not giving up any of my rights. hamsterjill Apr 2017 #54
I generally maintain that all rights are inalienable rock Apr 2017 #57
Mine have already been taken loyalsister Apr 2017 #68
Kick Squinch Apr 2017 #72
Kick Squinch Apr 2017 #73
Kick Squinch Apr 2017 #74
Kick Squinch Apr 2017 #75
I'm bookmarking this thread to be used as a reply to anyone who defends that shit about Squinch Apr 2017 #76
Excellent idea. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #77
K and r. nt cwydro Apr 2017 #80
K & f'n R !! musette_sf Apr 2017 #82
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