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30. My most passionate issues is LGBTQ rights
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 11:45 PM
Apr 2017

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4]Yet I voted for someone for president who stood before the senate and told the world marriage is the union of a man and woman. A person who lambasted a form for being inclusive of LGBTQ people out of fear of what Fox news might think. A Person who only supported SSM after it reached over 50% popularity.

I passionately support privacy rights, but again I gave this woman my vote despite knowing she voted to gut those rights via the patriot act.

I deeply believe in autonomy rights, but I voted for this someone who said they were willing to compromise on Abortion rights, and chose a VP who supported the Hyde amendment.

I did this because she was the democratic candidate for president and I know that while she had thrown my issues and rights I care about under the bus time after time, that her party in the end had my back on those issues and overall it would protect them.

The Person I did want to be president (lets call him candidate X) lost the primary. His critics said he was a purist who would never compromise; but, he also understood the need to put one's own ego aside for the greater good. He told his supporters that we had to be realisitic and that we should vote for her. So much for him being a purist. Anyway, I voted for her. But many of my fellow supporter didn't want to...and they were all shamed for it.

Now he is telling us to vote for another flawed candidate; because, overall this person would help the party out and all the issues I cared about. But now he and his supporters are being shamed for not demanding Purity. Apparently, party unity only matters around here when its one's favored candidate running.

I have held my nose and supported people who were willing to sacrifice my rights time and time again, because it was for the greater good. Because that is how progress is made. By pushing for your rights and your issues as hard as you can when it is feasible, and then biting your lip and making compromises when the time calls for it. It sucks but so long as you are moving forward you grin and bear it. Two steps forward and one step back is still a net gain of a step forward.

Why? Because if you don't you might not lose just one right but two or three. Or even all of them. When you put purity over the overall greater good you are not protecting that right, but rather putting your ego ahead of everything.

Just look at the situation we are in now. Trump got about the same number of votes as Romney did. Had the same people showed up in 2016 as did in 2012 we would have won. But those people didn't show. And now all the issues and rights Obama fought for are now in jeopardy. Instead of having a person in charge who is willing to sacrifice or endanger just one of our rights, we this overgrown umpaloompa threatening all of them.

Does this mean I think we shouldn't fight to keep these rights relevant to the party? Absolutely not. I will always fight so that the party puts civil rights and liberties first and foremost. But I know that there will be times I have to vote for someone who doesn't agree with me 100%.

When that times comes I will do what I always do: I will check my ego at the desk and vote for the overall greater good.[/font]

Good question. I'll await the answers. boston bean Apr 2017 #1
You and me both mercuryblues Apr 2017 #3
I am willing to give up left turn on red. pangaia Apr 2017 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author VOX Apr 2017 #2
It's only women's rights that are negotiable. athena Apr 2017 #4
+1 mercuryblues Apr 2017 #5
Same sort of situation in my mind. Zing Zing Zingbah Apr 2017 #16
Of course not n/t mercuryblues Apr 2017 #40
If you were actual human beings instead of incubators & ornaments, it wouldn't be an issue Orrex Apr 2017 #47
If the Republicans keep getting elected NobodyHere Apr 2017 #6
there is that attempt at shaming mercuryblues Apr 2017 #12
If you are so anxious to see the party adopt GOP positions? BainsBane Apr 2017 #24
+1 hamsterjill Apr 2017 #55
I'd rather vote for someone who agrees with me 75% of the time NobodyHere Apr 2017 #62
So women'd rights get thrown under the bus? csziggy Apr 2017 #25
Because it was always about priviledge BainsBane Apr 2017 #26
Yes indeed. For some, when actually called upon to take a stand on this issue... Orrex Apr 2017 #48
and to work furiously to normalize BainsBane Apr 2017 #56
Yes indeed. Quite chilling. (nt) Orrex Apr 2017 #58
We are losing them right now NobodyHere Apr 2017 #63
That's certainly a new way to rationalize a dramatic lack of convictions. LanternWaste Apr 2017 #61
None. tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #8
Thank you mercuryblues Apr 2017 #13
The fact that there is even... tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #14
Glad you posted this...cheers. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #9
K & R!!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #10
K&R too. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #11
Not one. shraby Apr 2017 #15
Still nothing, eh? boston bean Apr 2017 #17
The democratic party is not supporting any candidates who are vowing to restrict reproductive rights killbotfactory Apr 2017 #18
"Can we focus on expanding rights" musette_sf Apr 2017 #19
It's not a trade-off killbotfactory Apr 2017 #37
Womens right are subverted mercuryblues Apr 2017 #45
Womens rights will not ne subverted by economically progressive ideas. Nt killbotfactory Apr 2017 #60
K&R! nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #20
One right I will never give up is the right to trash threads, including this one. Jersey Devil Apr 2017 #21
don't let the door mercuryblues Apr 2017 #42
My vote will always go to whatever weakens the power of Republicans cheapdate Apr 2017 #22
that's not the issue BainsBane Apr 2017 #28
My home state (TN) is completely controlled by lunatic Republicans. cheapdate Apr 2017 #35
By doing this mercuryblues Apr 2017 #43
The problem is the calls for unity come from those BainsBane Apr 2017 #23
Thank you! MLAA Apr 2017 #27
Difficult. EthanBlue Apr 2017 #29
My most passionate issues is LGBTQ rights LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #30
Outstanding response! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #32
Thank you. n/t QC Apr 2017 #33
Where's the rec button? Lordquinton Apr 2017 #36
That response deserves its own separate OP/thread. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2017 #38
Brilliant post. Kentonio Apr 2017 #39
Very well said Bettie Apr 2017 #41
Here is her platform on LBGTQ rights mercuryblues Apr 2017 #44
Thank you. Kaye_NY Apr 2017 #52
So what you are saying is that when the facts don't suit your opinion you wont listen? LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #65
Yes her full throated support has been impressive.... Egnever Apr 2017 #59
+1 beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #71
Everything I stated is a verifiable fact and nothing was misrepresented and I will prove it. LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #64
Another excellent response, thank you! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #70
No, thank YOU for the support! It is very much appreciated! Nt LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #85
You're very welcome. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #93
An excellent response. Thank you. -- When they go low, we go high! NurseJackie Apr 2017 #66
You go high by totally misrepresenting facts and telling untruths? That is not the high road. nt LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #67
I can tell you that I haven't had a post removed in this thread... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #69
Good qualifer Lordquinton Apr 2017 #79
Isn't it? Nt LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #86
Neither have I. LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #83
LOL NurseJackie Apr 2017 #88
... Lordquinton Apr 2017 #91
*snort* beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #92
From the link you referred us to: Curmudgeoness Apr 2017 #78
Great points! LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #84
A reminder LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #89
APPLAUSE excellent retrowire Apr 2017 #81
The TRUTH will set you free! Nt LostOne4Ever Apr 2017 #87
Glad to see there is still some sanity afoot DefenseLawyer Apr 2017 #90
In just 100 days many rights have been put on the chopping block MedusaX Apr 2017 #31
But are Democrats mercuryblues Apr 2017 #46
Instead of giving up, I'll trade padfun Apr 2017 #34
As Democrats why would we want to give up any of those hard fought rights? SticksnStones Apr 2017 #49
Thank you for saying it so perfectly. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #50
No back alleys and Skidmore Apr 2017 #51
I will never vote for an anti-choice candidate. CrispyQ Apr 2017 #53
I'm not giving up any of my rights. hamsterjill Apr 2017 #54
I generally maintain that all rights are inalienable rock Apr 2017 #57
Mine have already been taken loyalsister Apr 2017 #68
Kick Squinch Apr 2017 #72
Kick Squinch Apr 2017 #73
Kick Squinch Apr 2017 #74
Kick Squinch Apr 2017 #75
I'm bookmarking this thread to be used as a reply to anyone who defends that shit about Squinch Apr 2017 #76
Excellent idea. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #77
K and r. nt cwydro Apr 2017 #80
K & f'n R !! musette_sf Apr 2017 #82
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