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174. Convict Labor During the Colonial Period
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:47 PM
Jul 2012
Title: Convicts Sent to Virginia
Source: Virginia Historical Society
More informationIn 1615, English courts began to send convicts to the colonies as a way of alleviating England's large criminal population. This practice was unpopular in the colonies and by 1697 colonial ports refused to accept convict ships. In response, Parliament passed the Transportation Act of 1718 to create a more systematic way to export convicts. Instead of relying on merchants to make arrangements on their own to ship felons to the colonies, the British government subsidized the shipment of convicts through a network of merchants, giving a contract for the service to one individual at a time. Between 1700 and 1775, approximately 52,200 convicts sailed for the colonies, more than 20,000 of them to Virginia. Most of these convicts landed and were settled along the Potomac and Rappahannock rivers. Although many were unskilled and thus put to work in agriculture, particularly tobacco production, others with skills were sold to tradesmen, shipbuilders, and iron manufacturers, and for other similar occupations. Convict laborers could be purchased for a lower price than indentured white or enslaved African laborers, and because they already existed outside society's rules, they could be more easily exploited. Nevertheless, Virginia tried repeatedly to pass laws to prevent England from sending convicts, though those laws were overturned by the Crown. At the beginning of the American Revolution (1775–1783), colonial ports virtually ceased accepting convict ships. By 1776, when the last boatload of convicts arrived on the James River, many of the convicts had served their seven-to-fourteen-year terms and returned to Great Britain, while others had become honest citizens and blended into Virginia's colonial economy.


http://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/Convict_Labor_During_the_Colonial_Period

Transportation was a common punishment handed out for both major and petty crimes in Britain from the seventeenth century until well into the nineteenth century. At the time it was seen as a more humane alternative to execution. Around 60,000 convicts were transported to the British colonies in North America in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. When the American Revolutionary War brought an end to that means of disposal, the British Government was forced to look elsewhere. After Captain Cook's famous voyage to the South Pacific in which he visited and claimed Australia in the name of the British Empire, he reported his findings to the government, and the British, for the first time, became aware of the existence of Australia.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convicts_in_Australia

In doing a little research, it was surprising that many convicts were sent to Maryland and Virginia.

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WE should sell Texas back to Mexico anyway....nt and-justice-for-all Jun 2012 #1
Just let my nephew and his daughters get out first malaise Jun 2012 #2
Yep, and add that $$$ against the national debt. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2012 #6
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If Wallstreet were in Houston 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #257
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Oh man, what did Mexico do to you?? DearAbby Jun 2012 #35
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Convict Labor During the Colonial Period FarCenter Jul 2012 #174
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posse comitatus. patrice Jul 2012 #158
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This time call their bluff. MoonRiver Jun 2012 #22
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Vermont. bluedigger Jun 2012 #27
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My vote. 7 separatists in the legislature, and tsuki Jun 2012 #114
Courtesy of the SE Texas Tea Party: XemaSab Jun 2012 #28
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Snowmobiles in NJ? FarCenter Jul 2012 #193
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Start with AK, then TX, then FL southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #37
Let them secede just make make the response unequivocal for treason this time. gordianot Jun 2012 #40
yes, with the punishment delivered Texas-style, post-haste. silvershadow Jul 2012 #128
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Begging your pardon, seriously! patrice Jul 2012 #159
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A: None. B: Why? n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #55
+100 n/t zappaman Jun 2012 #116
Thirteen states weren't enough............some Historic NY Jun 2012 #61
It was the Manifest Destiny of America to become a transcontinental empire FarCenter Jul 2012 #177
Secession is one of those things Republicans know they can use to rile up the base. randome Jun 2012 #67
go ahead secede. We have a lot more combat vets these days to fight another war. pasto76 Jun 2012 #73
you sound like you don't have a home of your own Sea-Dog Jun 2012 #111
Maybe my home state of Montana, but LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #78
None cordelia Jun 2012 #80
Rhode Island Canuckistanian Jun 2012 #85
Rhode Island was the first of the 13 original colonies to declare independence from British rule lunasun Jun 2012 #95
And what would this state do for currency? Pretorius Jun 2012 #88
is the dollar a tradeable currency? Sea-Dog Jun 2012 #108
Interesting - One general underlying them in a lot of responses come from Blue Staters rufus dog Jun 2012 #89
I believe you have a good point nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #96
I sincerely doubt even Conservatives are naive enough to follow a doofus like Perry into battle. randome Jun 2012 #101
Interesting response malaise Jul 2012 #122
Seeing that the Blue States have to support the Dead Wood Red States KatChatter Jul 2012 #132
Actually... kenfrequed Jul 2012 #163
Speak for yourself KatChatter Jul 2012 #224
Arizona nt arely staircase Jun 2012 #93
South Carolina, just like the last time. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #103
Naw. Our governor is too busy fighting ethics charges. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #120
Hawaii Sea-Dog Jun 2012 #104
The question is flawed. Inkfreak Jun 2012 #106
Thank you! kentauros Jul 2012 #194
I'm surprised the House hasn't voted on it. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #107
Which one doesn't need federal disaster relief? aquart Jun 2012 #110
The military budget is a huge subsidy to the South FarCenter Jun 2012 #117
California & Oregon the next time the republicans are let into power, They'll drag Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #119
I want Canada to adopt Washington and call it Baja British Columbia. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #125
Add Oregon and you've got a deal quinnox Jul 2012 #126
Why don't we just start our own modest country? Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #244
But will you stop your moose jokes, eh? :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #169
Texas, but we used to be a Republic. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #127
New Hampshire perhaps Marooned Jul 2012 #131
We need the other states to function Mopar151 Jul 2012 #178
Arizona. GeorgeGist Jul 2012 #133
Georgia. They didn't want to part of the union in the first place. n/t leeroysphitz Jul 2012 #134
It's best for the country if they go Ter Jul 2012 #139
I certainly hope that LanternWaste Jul 2012 #146
Hawaii taught_me_patience Jul 2012 #148
However, you might miss them kentauros Jul 2012 #245
I'm a traditionalist. Gotta be South Carolina. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2012 #149
+ 1 no_hypocrisy Jul 2012 #155
If it ever happened again, my money would be on Mississippi or West Virginia..... AverageJoe90 Jul 2012 #150
FitzWalkerStan. They can leave the rest of the state to us. postulater Jul 2012 #156
The Blue states should secede Shankapotomus Jul 2012 #160
Arizona or South Carolina, again. sinkingfeeling Jul 2012 #161
Rescue the Texas liberals and cut it loose. JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #166
What if Texas was split in half. There are alot of liberals in Texas LynneSin Jul 2012 #171
Works for me! JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #175
texas is like rest of country johnsolaris Jul 2012 #181
Well then Molly Ivins was full of it. JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #250
So You're Trying To Use Molly Ivins To Shit-Can Texas? Paladin Jul 2012 #254
No, to counter anonymous post on internet JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #263
Detroit has plenty of room..... eilen Jul 2012 #267
I say we give Michigan back to the Native Americans, first, kentauros Jul 2012 #189
Works for me, I apply for asylum. JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #249
Silly question. The answer is no one is being arrested for treason. onenote Jul 2012 #179
Actions speak louder then words Rex Jul 2012 #187
Bullshit excuse for south bashing... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #196
Not true malaise Jul 2012 #197
It may not have been your intention, but you know as well as I do cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #198
Thank you! kentauros Jul 2012 #220
I'd like to add my thanks, too. cordelia Jul 2012 #228
The Middle East War (aka WW3) will happen first. roamer65 Jul 2012 #199
I'm sorry, but...... AverageJoe90 Jul 2012 #240
give the right wing media more time... but yeah, their agenda is AGAINST our country fascisthunter Jul 2012 #200
Keep the states. Let the teabaggers like Rick Perry, Jan Brewer, and the muntrv Jul 2012 #201
There ya go! kentauros Jul 2012 #246
Vermont, but more because of the NoGOPZone Jul 2012 #203
I'll go with Alaska. Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #206
+1 treestar Jul 2012 #234
Whichever state is first, odds are they'll inadvertently threaten to "succeed" DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2012 #207
Texas. It will always be Texas. Taverner Jul 2012 #208
If any states do secede, we need to ensure we don't repeat the mistake maxrandb Jul 2012 #209
I'd prefer to see the major cities become states in their own right Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #210
Indiana Son of Gob Jul 2012 #223
They'll all threaten to secede for a week Arkana Jul 2012 #256
No state will threaten to secede get the red out Jul 2012 #259
LOL malaise Jul 2012 #264
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