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DeSwiss

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24. K&R
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:54 PM
Jul 2012
''The problem, really, is idiotic attempts at “triangulation.” When Bill Clinton first adopted the strategy on 1992 and onwards, it worked remarkably well for him, and drove the GOP nuts, because he had adopted and claimed credits for many of their ideas (i.e. Welfare reform) while allowing him to push his own policy objectives (i.e. tax policy).

Since then, however, the GOP has learned to “game” the triangulation strategy. It’s simple. Triangulation is just another word for “meeting the opposition half way.” If you are in the opposition and want to successfully counter (or game) your opponent’s triangulation strategy, all you need to do is move so absurdly to the right that your opponent’s “triangulation” position falls precisely where you want it to fall. Instead of your opponent playing you, you are now playing him.

I only half-blame Bill Clinton for this. He may have been the first to successfully implement the strategy, but it’s a lack of imagination on the part of recent Democrats that they continue to rely on the strategy, even as it’s painfully obvious that it’s working against them.'' STINQUE.com ~Serolf Divad

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Ramen. ret5hd Jul 2012 #1
good point. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #2
Bingo. Hit the nail on the head. vi5 Jul 2012 #3
I think it has a lot to do with Clinton Advisor Dick Morris HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #4
Both parties have moved to the Right. Bush Sr. would fit comfortably into the Democratic leadership leveymg Jul 2012 #5
Exactly, they seem to think they are only relevant if they push to the right, Lionessa Jul 2012 #6
The differences are only social. HughBeaumont Jul 2012 #7
Correct, and most people don't give a crap Iggy Jul 2012 #9
Because when it comes to several Iggy Jul 2012 #8
+1 HiPointDem Jul 2012 #11
Yeppers 99Forever Jul 2012 #10
There are differences, but there are also alot of things that stay the same. Marrah_G Jul 2012 #12
Maybe because another pending let's-send-even-more-jobs-to-foreign-countries "free-trade" agreement AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #13
So... the result of all that is: there's a lot less difference. phantom power Jul 2012 #14
In last 50 yrs, Dems produced 42 million jobs vs. GOP 24 million jobs ErikJ Jul 2012 #15
Interesting statistics. In the same time period, how many jobs were created in foreign countries AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #28
Somebody on this thread mentioned that both parties have moved rightward. Jamaal510 Jul 2012 #16
Even DU has moved to the right. A Simple Game Jul 2012 #21
I have noticed that too AnnieK401 Jul 2012 #25
"voters aren't likely to hear about them from us." POWER #1, your voice + your ears. nt patrice Jul 2012 #17
When's the last time two Democrats tried to out-do one another on who's the more liberal? theaocp Jul 2012 #18
+1 cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #32
When "Not as bad" is the selling point we get what they're selling..and that's all. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #19
+1 nt whatchamacallit Jul 2012 #30
Social vs economic. dtom67 Jul 2012 #20
Yes. Exactly. Quantess Jul 2012 #23
Two party system: The Conservative Party vs. the Whacko Party. nm rhett o rick Jul 2012 #22
K&R DeSwiss Jul 2012 #24
Um, no. IMHO you have created some StrawMan Democrat that doesn't exist. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #26
Maybe because of this? coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #27
The DLC closed it's doors so things may improve Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #29
Blah blah blah blah and more blah mizzuz pibb Jul 2012 #31
We're not only telling people about these similarities, were embracing them. progressoid Jul 2012 #33
One side SAYS they care, the other side lets it be known they don't but in the end they BOTH put the Raine Jul 2012 #34
Every tie we move right we tell the voters that the R's have the best ideas... Scuba Jul 2012 #35
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