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In reply to the discussion: Why the sudden urge to move the party right? [View all]zipplewrath
(16,698 posts)110. Not sure Obama would agree
President Obama said his economic policies are "so mainstream" he'd be considered a moderate Republican in the 1980s.
In a Thursday interview with a Miami-based local television station, Obama said he thinks few people believe he wants to impose socialism on the country.
"The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican," he told Noticias Univision 23 in a White House interview.
In a Thursday interview with a Miami-based local television station, Obama said he thinks few people believe he wants to impose socialism on the country.
"The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican," he told Noticias Univision 23 in a White House interview.
That sounds like the party as a whole has moved to the right alot. Of course this is only on economic policy. But on foreign policy, it might be harder to judge. We certainly aren't the anti-war party of the late '60s and early '70s. And we did ramp up the war in Afghanistan after Obama was elected, not to mention we never actually left. But we also resisted going into Syria alot as well as Lybia and Yemen. And we resisted returning to Iraq, although we reluctantly had to back away from that because of Syria and Isis. Alternately, we became the party of drone strikes and of classifying the torture photos. Not to mention we didn't advocate the closing of Gitmo, but merely the moving it to American soil.
On Civil rights we have a much better track record. Despite some resistance within the party, we've moved forward with LGBTQ rights including at this point marriage equality. We attempted to defend privacy rights as well. We've stayed pretty firm on reproductive rights, including women's health rights, even with the ACA and have taken no small amount of political heat on that. I really don't think we can take much of a hit on voting rights. We've just continued to lose that battle, through no real fault of our own.
We've wandered aimlessly on gun control, but if anything Clinton tried to move that left and the party took a heck of a hit over it.
So I suppose it is a bit like the blind people touching the elephant, it kinda depends upon which part one is touching. The perception that the party has move to the right has I suspect predominately due to their positions on free trade and their weakening support of unions, and generally their overall weakness on issues like Glass-Steagall and bank bailouts. The embracing of the whole PAC thing after Citizens United has had an "optics" problem from the get-go, doing one thing and saying another. But I suspect that is in the noise.
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The first post that I saw under an article about Bernie's minimum wage bill was
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#114
Is it possible to express ideas about economic justice without racist and sexist overtones?
mia
Apr 2017
#3
Calling people out for supporting sexist legislature is NOT reverse sexism. That's nonsense.
bettyellen
Apr 2017
#25
Bernie flat out said we should accept anti-choice candidates into the party and fund them.
JTFrog
Apr 2017
#107
The whole song and dance about not being able to vote for Clinton because of principle
betsuni
Apr 2017
#23
As we have seen on the left as well, there are women who draw their power and identity
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#118
I am getting sick and tired of being told to cater to people who don't give two shits about...
hrmjustin
Apr 2017
#13
it has been hard to read DU recently and it is not because of the Bernie/Clinton race like some here
hrmjustin
Apr 2017
#38
"If you can compromise or throw out one civil right you can kiss the rest
50 Shades Of Blue
Apr 2017
#50
This party has been moving to the right since Bill Clinton was elected. Let's be real.
PatsFan87
Apr 2017
#18
no it hasn't. the party has become more liberal . the conservative dems have turned republican
JI7
Apr 2017
#24
If we're going to be real, we need to be factual, and that is an incorrect statement.
Vesper
Apr 2017
#30
This said with a straight face after decades of the Democratic Party moving to the Right.
YoungDemCA
Apr 2017
#40
Who is actually trying to move our party backwards, even on women's rights? Who is gung-ho about
JCanete
Apr 2017
#62
Does Pariello have more than one bad vote on his record regarding women's rights? The one he said he
JCanete
Apr 2017
#131
It's supposed to be factual. I can't help it if I'm cute. I don't believe the party is ignoring
Nanjeanne
Apr 2017
#78
Okey dokey. You are the winner. I need to follow the advice of my tag line now.
Nanjeanne
Apr 2017
#94
Maybe if they'd stop BEING fucking morons their agenda could actually be advanced.
Foamfollower
Apr 2017
#99
They are moving the party to the right...look at the Perriello edorsement objectively.
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#89
I sent you a couple of links so you don't have to wade through all the apologist shite.
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#106
Trying to elect a Democrat in Nebraska is not "moving the party to the right"
DefenseLawyer
Apr 2017
#127