Ok, let's talk about conservative Democrats

[zipplewrath]

91. It's all about money

This conflict predominately arises over money. Who should the DNC "fund"? Who should any of the national funding organizations fund. Furthermore, what role should theses funding entities play in primaries? Should the DSCC/DCCC be involved at all in primaries? Should out of state people not give money until the states have chosen their candidates?

Right now, national money plays a big part in local races, so it only makes sense that the people giving that money expect that their positions be supported. If they find they are not, they should be free to support those people that DO support their positions. If the national party is going to support candidates in the primaries, national organizations should be allowed to oppose those candidates if they don't like their positions. If the Clinton's and Obama's, as well as Biden and Pelosi et. al. are going to run around raising funds for local primary candidates, then other national figures should be allowed to seek to support the candidates THEY want to see win primaries, even if they aren't the incumbents.

Alternately, if we want a "hands off" approach, then incumbents should expect to have to find their support within their own states. No running of to Hollywood to raise money for their primary races. No support from the DSCC until they win their primaries.

Furthermore, you don't acknowledge there are two kinds of conservative democrats. It is one thing to vote ones "conscience" from vote to vote. It is another thing to coordinate ones activity with the opposition. We had democratic leaders removing and blocking the participation of democratic activist during the build up to the ACA. We had senators coordinating with lobbyists for the insurance companies which resulted in the loss of the public option and the inclusion of the mandate. They knew they could do this because they knew that the GOP would support their actions. They knew they could undermine the ACA because they didn't have to worry that a democratic majority would be able to get enough republican votes to pass it. That goes beyond just being a conservative democrat. That becomes a case of working in opposition to the party.