Female genital mutilation procedure 'hurted a lot,' child says

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76. I've already explained why the defense of any mutilation of children's genitals is offensive.

I've explained the anatomy and the religious rituals, and the appeal to emotion is the underlying fallacy behind these arguments defending mutilation. Denying the facts and appealing to emotion as you all are doing is poor argument.

I'm in fact appealing to facts and evidence based medicine, you however are based solely in emotional and cultural bias.

Genital mutilation itself covers a wide range of horrors, but you outright deny the fact that this happens in both genders, and this is what is intellectually dishonest, it's emotional, I grant you, but it's not honest. It's a gross disservice to boys who also suffered this trauma and have the same feelings about it that these girls do. It was a wrong done to them and their cultural and religious bias leads them to propagate it.

Obviously they are equivalent you are literally arguing degrees here and insisting that sexual function, age and gender are what determine what make a barbaric act barbaric or not. That is a literal fallacious appeal to emotion, and denial of fact.

I get it, this is what's normal in your culture, you or your family members may have experienced it and it's part of your tradition, it might be a choice you make for your children, because it's seen as something that is beneficial.

Take a moment to put that bias on hold for a second, press the pause button on the racial/religious etc animus for a second, that Johns Hopkins educated, residency trained, board certified doctor, for whom it was a cultural norm, who probably had it performed on her, who thought it was beneficial for her patients, also felt the same thing you do.

You're both wrong. The act of genital mutilation of a child, no matter what degree or what level of sexual function is left, is still a wrong act. Period. It's not an emotional thing, it's an acknowledgement of reality, without the cultural bias.

This is a practice that is not common in the world, the US is one of the few countries in the world where it's accepted as the "norm" everyone else is horrified by it who doesn't do it for religious reasons themselves. That same disgust you feel towards this doctor and the people who advocate for mutilation is what others feel for those who make these distinctions without a difference.

I'm not sure why stating that cutting little kids in the genitals for cultural reasons is so controversial, but the emotional reaction, the rejection of reality, of facts, of simple anatomy is ridiculous.

The simple science here says that you're wrong, and I have no bias towards circumcision that you and the other defending this form of mutilation do. My position, which should not be controversial is that genital mutilation is wrong period.

That you're here projecting your emotional reaction and arguing the merits of one over the other should give you pause, should you calm down and examine what I've actually said as opposed to what you reacted emotionally to.

It's cruel and dishonest to deny that genitally mutilating a child is NOT wrong, because of the age, gender, religion, culture or orgasm potential.

If there was less irrational emotional denial of simple science and that cultural bias here, you might have a hope of seeing that.