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In reply to the discussion: Which state will threaten to secede first [View all]demwing
(16,916 posts)182. Well I live in Florida, and I see the evidence all the time
150 years later were still fighting the civil war
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/150-years-later-were-still-fighting-the-civil-war/2011/04/12/AFFLFeSD_story.html
Why the Confederate flag is still flying high
http://thegrio.com/2011/04/25/why-the-confederate-flag-is-still-flying-high/


http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/150-years-later-were-still-fighting-the-civil-war/2011/04/12/AFFLFeSD_story.html
"The key to understanding the Civil War, which began 150 years ago this week, is to realize that its still being fought. Indeed, its being fought now more intensely than at any time since the 1960s.
Then, African Americans and white Northern liberals and moderates battled Southern white segregationists and Goldwater conservatives to establish equal racial access to the ballot, housing and public facilities. Todays battle more closely resembles the one that inaugurated the Civil War, which centered on the expansion of slavery to the lands west of the Mississippi. As in 1861, we are again divided over whether Southern or Northern labor systems, and Southern or Northern versions of government, shall become the national norm"
Then, African Americans and white Northern liberals and moderates battled Southern white segregationists and Goldwater conservatives to establish equal racial access to the ballot, housing and public facilities. Todays battle more closely resembles the one that inaugurated the Civil War, which centered on the expansion of slavery to the lands west of the Mississippi. As in 1861, we are again divided over whether Southern or Northern labor systems, and Southern or Northern versions of government, shall become the national norm"
Why the Confederate flag is still flying high
http://thegrio.com/2011/04/25/why-the-confederate-flag-is-still-flying-high/
"...Is the Confederate flag as its defenders repeatedly claim merely a symbol of Southern history, pride and heritage, and has absolutely no political or social connotations, let alone intended as a symbol of slavery and a prop for racism? Or is it as the NAACP repeatedly maintain a blatant display of bigotry and racist defiance that symbolizes slavery and black oppression and is a direct slap in the face of blacks a century and a half after the South was vanquished on the battlefield?
The truth, as always, lay somewhere in between. For decades, the Confederate flag, or some variation of it, has either flown or been displayed or embedded in state flags in Mississippi, Georgia, North Carolina, and Alabama and in decades past in other Southern states.Thousands of motor vehicle owners have requested personalized license plates with the Sons of Confederate Veterans logo which embeds the Confederate flag in it for their cars and trucks in Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee."
The truth, as always, lay somewhere in between. For decades, the Confederate flag, or some variation of it, has either flown or been displayed or embedded in state flags in Mississippi, Georgia, North Carolina, and Alabama and in decades past in other Southern states.Thousands of motor vehicle owners have requested personalized license plates with the Sons of Confederate Veterans logo which embeds the Confederate flag in it for their cars and trucks in Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee."


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Too bad we couldn't get out before our tax dollars went to bail out a bunch of yankee
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#230
President Kennedy was assasinated while being driven around Dealy Plaza. I had to much confidence
lonestarnot
Jul 2012
#221
How did you reach the conclussion I was advocating throwing Texas out of the United States? Have
lonestarnot
Jul 2012
#236
Are you saying you believe President Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald
man4allcats
Jul 2012
#227
Neither. People on this thread were discussing dissolution of the U.S. and
lonestarnot
Jul 2012
#237
Let Texas secede and then tell Mexico we wouldn't mind if they invaded.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jun 2012
#102
The red states have always been in the way and creating all of the dissension in
RKP5637
Jun 2012
#11
I think so, I really think that has a lot to do with it, especially since for eons
RKP5637
Jun 2012
#42
Yyyeeee Hhhaaa! "... absolute _____________ relativists..." THIS!!! is the wheel upon which
patrice
Jul 2012
#255
Wow. I wasn't even aware of that "absolute relativist" oxymoron until you spotted it.
Jackpine Radical
Jul 2012
#260
There are many of us in Red States who are trying to change the status quo.
unapatriciated
Jun 2012
#58
well, that's one of the most foolish things i've seen you post, and that's saying something.
dionysus
Jun 2012
#25
As a Minnesotan, I hear you. It's crazy-making and every time I hear a red-state governor complain,
Brickbat
Jun 2012
#51
We'd have been better off winning the War of 1812 and then letting the South secede
FarCenter
Jun 2012
#60
Wow, that's pretty brutal. One might think that you are trying to stir up some
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#43
How about all those "homeowners" in CA, AZ, NV, and FL that took out mortgages they couldn't afford
FarCenter
Jun 2012
#76
goodness... it's as if some are innocent and naive enough to actually believe that
LanternWaste
Jul 2012
#144
I used to believe exactly as you do. But then yesterday I read a very eloquent post
coalition_unwilling
Jul 2012
#164
If McCrory wins the Gov race in November, North Carolina will probably...
WorseBeforeBetter
Jun 2012
#15
I was thinking that, but decided that a BORDER state is more likely, e.g. all the guns flowing thru
patrice
Jul 2012
#157
Yes but they would able to compete with China for low wage jobs. The Repukes
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#44
The authoritarians are near Grand Rapids in the southwest part of the state.
amandabeech
Jul 2012
#140
Let them secede just make make the response unequivocal for treason this time.
gordianot
Jun 2012
#40
Secession is one of those things Republicans know they can use to rile up the base.
randome
Jun 2012
#67
go ahead secede. We have a lot more combat vets these days to fight another war.
pasto76
Jun 2012
#73
Rhode Island was the first of the 13 original colonies to declare independence from British rule
lunasun
Jun 2012
#95
Interesting - One general underlying them in a lot of responses come from Blue Staters
rufus dog
Jun 2012
#89
I sincerely doubt even Conservatives are naive enough to follow a doofus like Perry into battle.
randome
Jun 2012
#101
California & Oregon the next time the republicans are let into power, They'll drag
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2012
#119
I want Canada to adopt Washington and call it Baja British Columbia.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2012
#125
If it ever happened again, my money would be on Mississippi or West Virginia.....
AverageJoe90
Jul 2012
#150
give the right wing media more time... but yeah, their agenda is AGAINST our country
fascisthunter
Jul 2012
#200
Whichever state is first, odds are they'll inadvertently threaten to "succeed"
DisgustipatedinCA
Jul 2012
#207