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Ezior

(505 posts)
20. Thank you! And F the alt left! (or whatever you want to call the pro-Putin, anti-NATO left)
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 07:03 AM
Apr 2017

That was an interesting read.

There are some similarities to Germany, which is frightening. Our alt right party describes this country the way you describe Belgium and France. Apparently, there are no go areas where the police will not help you (or they will only arrive with dozens of officers to protect themselves). Personally, I don't really believe that because I've walked through one of the supposed "no go areas" (Northern Dortmund) and it was... very normal. Well, maybe the bad Romanian guys and other migrants from eastern Europe are in their homes and only come out when police is on the street, who knows... I still doubt it.

Anyway, there's at least some truth to it, as always. The recent crime statistics aren't very promising with regards to refugees. Violent crimes are on the rise. Refugees are often victims of violent refugees. The Minister who is in charge of crimes and the police tells us not to worry, because the overwhelming majority of refugees are peaceful, especially those from Syria, while there are only few who are really violent and cause a lot of trouble, mostly from Northern Africa (so we have our own "Moroccans" like in Belgium).

I wonder if our laws and executive forces are ready to handle this. The troublemakers should be either out of the country or in prison, not abusing and hurting peaceful refugees or Germans / tourists / long-time residents. Maybe the alt right party is right that we need to handle this in a different way. First, to make life better for everyone else, and second, to prevent a "Belgium or France" scenario where the mainstream left parties are to blame for huge violent crime problems, leading to election wins of the alt right who then go on to destroy everything I love about this country.

I think this was a problem even before the refugees came here. You seriously hurt someone, then a year passes, then you must go to court and say "I'm sorry" and the judge tells you not to do it again. Maybe you pay a small amount of money, maybe you are forced to do some social work, in extreme cases you might go to prison, but you will be out of prison quite soon (unless you really killed someone). You do it again, you tell the judge that you're sorry again, repeat. I can see how this is okay for first-time offenders who maybe lost control for a short time span and regret it. But we're really quite weak when it comes to violent crime and repeat offenders.

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deja vu BainsBane Apr 2017 #1
Seems global. And well orchestrated. boston bean Apr 2017 #2
I've seen that movie. betsuni Apr 2017 #3
It's already running around the clock, 7 days a week. democratisphere Apr 2017 #4
So it's Macron that worries you? Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #10
What do you mean? fun n serious Apr 2017 #12
I'll walk you through it. betsuni Apr 2017 #13
Sorry it's early and pre-coffee for me. Nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #14
Of course, the little darlings.. Skidmore Apr 2017 #5
Macron needs to point out JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #6
Mais oui! Behind the Aegis Apr 2017 #7
Like jill stein LIED her head off to help trump.. a pawn Cha Apr 2017 #8
Hmmm ... just what BlueMTexpat Apr 2017 #9
Not an unlikely source, but rather an obvious source DFW Apr 2017 #11
Thank you for the insight Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #16
Mainstream media here is pretty objective DFW Apr 2017 #39
Thank you! And F the alt left! (or whatever you want to call the pro-Putin, anti-NATO left) Ezior Apr 2017 #20
Both of you are giving accounts that make me fear for the future of Europe Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #26
The seeds ARE here. But so far, except for Hungary, they are mostly dormant. DFW Apr 2017 #40
Germany is a different situation DFW Apr 2017 #48
Pretty much no difference between the far left and far right anymore. JTFrog Apr 2017 #15
Yep, useful for drumpfuck Cha Apr 2017 #21
I don't look at them much at all, DFW Apr 2017 #49
Same here. I can't begin to understand it though. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #51
I don't think rational thinkers do. You either immerse yourself in their mindset..... DFW Apr 2017 #52
Difficult bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #17
To be fair, Macron was secretary of whatever (economic affairs?) before Ezior Apr 2017 #24
Correction retrowire Apr 2017 #18
Why do you pretend there are no extremists? JTFrog Apr 2017 #19
Because retrowire Apr 2017 #22
This post sure explains a lot n/t kcr Apr 2017 #29
As long as you're not misinterpreting it then I'm glad. Nt retrowire Apr 2017 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Apr 2017 #53
Oppressing the mens. betsuni Apr 2017 #35
Right, which is not what feminism is about, correct? Nt retrowire Apr 2017 #36
Funny how you relate oppression of men to feminism. boston bean Apr 2017 #41
OMFG YOURE SERIOUS? retrowire Apr 2017 #42
Wow how many bad feminists have you met?! boston bean Apr 2017 #43
None retrowire Apr 2017 #44
Oh my. boston bean Apr 2017 #45
You're being rude. Nt retrowire Apr 2017 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Apr 2017 #54
Too late, the far left and the far right are joined at the hip- Your posts will not change that snooper2 Apr 2017 #55
Sure if people keep falling for the trolls impersonations retrowire Apr 2017 #56
This article is complete BS oberliner Apr 2017 #23
To be fair, his voters are not as dumb as he seems to be Ezior Apr 2017 #25
a majority of them either won't vote or will vote for le pen. wow.... boston bean Apr 2017 #31
follow the money. mopinko Apr 2017 #27
He's a Putin fanboy Ezior Apr 2017 #28
yup. the jill stein of france. mopinko Apr 2017 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Apr 2017 #32
send it to rachel mopinko Apr 2017 #33
Go figure! NurseJackie Apr 2017 #37
Hmm... This story plot seems familiar for some reason... Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #38
Sounds familiar. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #46
Ah, the summer reruns. Is Putin the head of programming for all networks? FSogol Apr 2017 #50
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