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Thu Apr 27, 2017, 11:00 AM Apr 2017

State senator (R) offers an alternative to costly EpiPen - and a response (not mine) [View all]

Last week Sen. Paul Anderson hosted a town hall with Sen. Michelle Benson as guest. One man asked what our leaders could do to fix skyrocketing drug costs. His grandson has anaphylactic allergies and the family can no longer afford his EpiPen. Sen. Benson’s answer was that people “need more skin in the game” and his grandson could carry a glass vial of epinephrine and a syringe to save money.

To that end, I have attached directions for injecting Epinephrine from a glass vial:

1. Time is of the essence. Do the following without delay:

2. Locate the 1cc tuberculin syringe with 1/2 or 5/8 inch, 25, 26, or 27 gauge needle.

3. Break the neck of the glass vial at the scored site in one fluid motion to avoid glass shards.

4. FULL CONTENTS OF THE VIAL MUST NOT BE GIVEN IN ONE DOSE. Give only the correct dose based on patient’s weight.

5. Turn vial at slant without tipping or contents will be lost. Loosen plunger with 1-2 dry pumps. Draw up slightly more than calculated dose.

6. Turn needle up, tap side of barrel, when air bubbles go to the top, push the plunger tip up to exact dosage. Give (calculated amount) cc of 1:1000 Epinephrine.

7. Clean injection site with alcohol (if no alcohol proceed anyway).

8. Give injection intramuscularly in upper arm, deltoid, or middle third of outer thigh.

9. Pinch two-inch fold of flesh. With fluid motion inject the needle fully at 90 degrees.

10. Release pinched tissues. While holding barrel with one hand, retract plunger, looking for for blood. If there is blood, pull the needle out and try a new site.

11. If no blood, push plunger to inject Epinephrine. Pull the needle from the skin. Apply pressure.

12. Transport patient to nearest emergency room.

Although Sen. Benson recommends the above substitution to save money, as a physician I can’t recommend it. Instead, I recommend our leaders grow backbones and stand up to predatory pharmaceutical pricing.

Allison Stolz, MD
Minnetonka

http://abcnewspapers.com/2017/04/20/letters-to-the-editor-for-april-21-2017/

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that's actually more humane than what I expected Benson's reply to be ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #1
Benson is a rural Mn Senator, while the Dr. in the Letter does not rec. that procedure. It is not riversedge Apr 2017 #5
I think that's exactly the point of the letter ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #7
WebMd is one source question everything Apr 2017 #10
Those directions are for the Prepared "Epi-Pen" person to use. Not the vial. Glass vials are riversedge Apr 2017 #12
I have to keep an EpiPen Elwood P Dowd Apr 2017 #2
He assumes everyone would remain calm BannonsLiver Apr 2017 #9
There is NO reason for the Epipen costs..bigpharma is making money hand over fist... asiliveandbreathe Apr 2017 #3
funny. some of this is overstated, as epipens don't do half of this. unblock Apr 2017 #4
Epi pens (different brands but same principles) are common usuage in nursing homes and riversedge Apr 2017 #13
I think epipens have a different needle Doremus Apr 2017 #33
syringes come with many different size needles. unblock Apr 2017 #34
This response is lame as hell ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #6
@GOP motto: We got ours, F the rest of you. sarcasmo Apr 2017 #8
An old friend put this suggestion up on his FB page. wildeyed Apr 2017 #11
I'm a little confused. Kentonio Apr 2017 #14
Giving epinephren Ladygrey Apr 2017 #23
Yeah, I wasn't trying to defend this jackass senator Kentonio Apr 2017 #24
Epipen substitute Ladygrey Apr 2017 #25
I've long held the opinion Kentonio Apr 2017 #26
No, he was suggesting that this was an acceptable solution to the problem. wildeyed Apr 2017 #29
Ah I see, I understand why you were angry now. Kentonio Apr 2017 #30
Thanks. The whole idea of a pen is that it is easy to deliver the medication and premeasured. riversedge Apr 2017 #15
Some here have missed the point by a mile. Dr Allison Stolz was demonstrating, in detail... Hekate Apr 2017 #16
The Epipen is a MECHANICAL device, not some rare weird drug. The drug it contains is cheap. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #17
I use a paper towel to break those kind of vials ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #18
Ya'll are just totally missing the point!! Rural_Progressive Apr 2017 #19
I thought the obvious republican solution... uriel1972 Apr 2017 #22
You are correct. trotsky Apr 2017 #28
A very kind and wonderful fellow I knew died for want of one of those epi-pens. MADem Apr 2017 #20
No one should buy Epipens, the generic alternatives are much cheaper. Case in point: stevenleser Apr 2017 #21
Hope COSTCO will do the same question everything Apr 2017 #32
All that sounds like a lot, but it really isn't greymattermom Apr 2017 #27
I started saying the same thing when the price went up to force prices back down. sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #31
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