after 300 years a woman wins a parties nomination and loses the EC but wins the popular vote

[Squinch]

38. I am not willing to give up my right to own my body because of them. I get what you are saying

because I was raised in a hyper Catholic environment. But what do we say to them? We say if you don't think it is morally right, don't have one.

Practically, I try to tell them that when birth control is very easily available, the numbers of abortions drop by a lot. So if they are serious, they should be advocating for easy and cheap access to birth control. Also, they know that women will get abortions whether they are legal or not. When abortions are illegal, women die getting them any way they can. So, to my Catholic friends I do try to point out that they are not "saving" any lives. They are just killing women. That's not that compelling to them, though, because they tend not to even realize how little regard they have for women. Even female Catholics.

The answer, though, is NOT for us to give up our value that says women own their own bodies.

By the way, I am a woman and I have lived a life, and I have never been in a cohort that availed itself of more abortions than in my Catholic high school and college. My wild years in New York City which began before the AIDS era? The number of my friends from those years who had abortions was about a tenth of the number from my Catholic college who had abortions.