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anneboleyn

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93. The rabid reefer madness re:opioids (the new "war on drugs") hurts legitimate patients. People who
Fri Apr 28, 2017, 12:11 PM
Apr 2017

say extremely lame and insensitive and clueless comments about how they didn't need pain killers for x or y -- wait until you experience real pain. The OP's post broke my heart. Severe untreated pain is the worst thing one can imagine, and it makes life unbearable. I also have heard the insulting comments that a patient should just take more ibuprofen as that "worked for me"or that a prescription painkiller made them sleepy or whatever. This make me so angry I can't even breathe. I have posted long threads about this issue before as we dealt with this issue with an extremely ill relative with horrific bone pain from cancer, and the opioids were the only thing that gave her any relief and any quality of life. What I witnessed changed my life -- my entire outlook -- forever. Before I didn't truly understand how bad things can get and that pain, and suffering, like that existed. Yes of course I knew that people suffered, and I had suffered myself, but I had never seen it up close. I had never seen what severe chronic pain does to a human being -- untreated chronic pain is absolutely a DEATH SENTENCE. The indifference to this suffering requires a level of cruelty that I don't understand, and it terrifies me that we see more of this callous indifference everyday.

The idea that some asshole politician could strip her of a right to proper care and proper pain treatment is APPALLING. I simply don't understand why anyone on the left, especially people who support legalizing marijuana for example, would play into right wing rhetoric. People who use these drugs inappropriately (ADDICTION as dependence is a different issue in medical treatment) should be treated as they are treated in Europe. It is a MEDICAL PROBLEM. Locking them in jail or punishing people with real pain because of people who abuse the system and abuse the drugs is frankly evil. It is the kind of thinking republicans promote all the time: certain "bad" people exploit/use illegally Medicare/welfare/food stamps/prescription medications therefore we should cut off these programs entirely and/or limit food or medical to three days ma see Chris Christie's "solution" to the issue in New Jersey).

I will never understand why people first of all think that their medical experience is the same as every else's or that they won't find themselves in need of pain treatment in the future (it didn't hurt that bad...or I've never had severe pain so I don't really get it). I even see that right wing memes creep into it (war on drugs rhetoric, who cares if legitimate patients like the OP suffer because some people use drugs illegally and it's far more important that we focus on them and fuck the people who are screaming in pain, they don't really NEED these drugs -- they can ruin their livers with mountains of Tylenol or kidneys with mountains of ibuprofen or their stomach linings with buckets of aspirin that won't work, etc etc). Our relative was treated like a drug addict even though the pain was very real and from a terrible disease. She had to go in every single month, of course, and deal with the always unfriendly pharmacy and deal with all of the hoops and disapproving looks every month, because asshole politicians have taken this on themselves as the new war on drugs. It's a lot easier to terrify doctors and terrorize sick patients than to track down drug lords isn't it?! And people wonder why the suicide rate skyrockets for people with chronic pain.

Jesus this is depressing. It is making me cry with rage.

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Physicians have lost their minds [View all] Drahthaardogs Apr 2017 OP
This is the future and if we have a future, which is doubtful, this is frightening. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #1
Unfortunately, overprescription caused an opioid epidemic--those intentionally injure themselves. TheBlackAdder Apr 2017 #71
+1 n/t okieinpain Apr 2017 #80
i just finished this video and john oliver needs to okieinpain Apr 2017 #81
Get a new doctor. triron Apr 2017 #2
It was ER. Drahthaardogs Apr 2017 #4
no but I believe it! I have injured ribs falling while jogging on a trail-- triron Apr 2017 #10
Hopefully tomorrow Drahthaardogs Apr 2017 #17
OMG! I can't imagine. I just recovered from a broken and dislocated shoulder woodsprite Apr 2017 #19
After every surgery the doctors prescribed opiods to me csziggy Apr 2017 #33
yes, emergency room physicians are very paranoid about people chasing opiates unblock Apr 2017 #22
That Sounds itcfish Apr 2017 #67
I wonder what they would do with me. Mariana Apr 2017 #68
probably give you a rolled-up towel to bite down on.... unblock Apr 2017 #77
Some have, some haven't. It depends on a lot of things. RedWedge Apr 2017 #3
That's crazy...you prescribe based on the injury. Cattledog Apr 2017 #5
No, ER. Drahthaardogs Apr 2017 #8
If the pain is unbearable I would go to your Doc Cattledog Apr 2017 #16
They haven't lost their minds. former9thward Apr 2017 #6
No, this is Pete Sessions using the DEA to crack down on people he doesn't like Warpy Apr 2017 #24
The cheer leading for the personal injury crowd goes on. former9thward Apr 2017 #35
Not all of us can be born in the invincible crowd like you n/t kcr Apr 2017 #38
GOP talking point. Personal injury lawyers defend against corporate overreach sharedvalues Apr 2017 #52
I pretend mere disagreement with my opinions is simple "cheer-leading" as well... LanternWaste Apr 2017 #58
that's quite unlikely in the case of e.r. treatment. you'd only prescribe a day or two's worth. unblock Apr 2017 #25
Right wing talking-point hogwash kcr Apr 2017 #37
Can you identify a suit of this type? jberryhill Apr 2017 #56
Sure, but not to your satisfaction. former9thward Apr 2017 #65
Price of letting lawyers run wild? Very low. Cicada Apr 2017 #92
That is a shameless right wing talking point. Whiskeytide Apr 2017 #99
or for allowing the "war on drugs" to run wild. nt TheFrenchRazor Apr 2017 #105
Get some red vein Kratom superpatriotman Apr 2017 #7
Interesting point. BigDemVoter Apr 2017 #9
Have you seen the studies on knee arthritis and tylenol? Drahthaardogs Apr 2017 #12
Before I got my knees replaced opiods did nothing for the bone on bone pain csziggy Apr 2017 #34
That is exactly the reason I avoid opioids. pnwmom Apr 2017 #47
I had that reaction to Demerol years ago... k8conant Apr 2017 #51
I call them my "stupid pills" since they make me so dopey csziggy Apr 2017 #63
People have different reactions. Mariana Apr 2017 #89
Good for you guys but other people need them for chronic pain. I can't stand the indifference to anneboleyn Apr 2017 #95
I do understand the need for pain treatment csziggy Apr 2017 #97
Codeine is an outmoded drug Sgent Apr 2017 #78
I sure was grateful for it when I had a series of tooth abcesses Crunchy Frog Apr 2017 #96
I have never had it work for a simple headache get the red out Apr 2017 #87
America's healthcare system walkingman Apr 2017 #11
I dislocated a shoulder as a teenager malaise Apr 2017 #13
I broke my shoulder and had to take opioids for a short while but was allergic and broke into hives. kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2017 #14
I'm now on a contract with pee tests for a drug I've been on for 10 years Warpy Apr 2017 #15
I've seen it hyped on here as well. Many people need these meds for pain. NOT everyone is an addict. grossproffit Apr 2017 #20
Dependence and addiction are different phenomena Warpy Apr 2017 #21
Me, too, on the pain meds contract. Shrike47 Apr 2017 #91
Booze and Weed sarcasmo Apr 2017 #18
Be thankful the redumbliCONs are not in charge. You probably would democratisphere Apr 2017 #23
Don't even get me started on this "Reefer Madness" retread. Coventina Apr 2017 #26
My husband fractured some ribs a few weeks back and got an Rx for Tramadol at immediate care Freethinker65 Apr 2017 #27
You might see about getting medical marijuana, which mostly does not Blue Meany Apr 2017 #28
In my personal experience, THC is quite effective for pain. eShirl Apr 2017 #31
I requested a 2-3 day Rx after oral surgery a few months ago. Ilsa Apr 2017 #29
That's about the only thing I ever used them for bhikkhu Apr 2017 #30
My dentist (specialist) wouldn't give me any after a root canal surgery Sgent Apr 2017 #79
That's what you get when you have Rethugs in charge. clementine613 Apr 2017 #32
Unfortunately, this situation predates the most recent election. Crunchy Frog Apr 2017 #46
Granted, it does... clementine613 Apr 2017 #53
That's horrific Meowmee Apr 2017 #36
Yes. I learned about that 2 years ago, when I got a kidney stone. Crunchy Frog Apr 2017 #39
Jesus, a kidney stone? kcr Apr 2017 #41
3 hours screaming in an ER cubicle, being treated worse than an animal. Crunchy Frog Apr 2017 #48
I've been taking opiods 3-5x daily since Jan. They always underprescribe. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #40
Go find one who'll give you opiates then. linuxman Apr 2017 #42
The ER really is not the place to get a decent script anymore Egnever Apr 2017 #43
Is that the same as having an arm come out of a socket? That used to happen to my father pnwmom Apr 2017 #44
my son was puking from the pain of his spleen sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #45
My Dr. retired and sent me to another, new doc said no opiates at all anymore. Hamlette Apr 2017 #49
OMG! loyalsister Apr 2017 #50
I lost my doctor over this exboyfil Apr 2017 #54
"I strongly doubt he was taking kick backs" jberryhill Apr 2017 #57
In the three years listed exboyfil Apr 2017 #62
The addicts have ruined it for the people with bona fide pain. Tylenol is worthless IMO. Vinca Apr 2017 #55
The addicts didn't ruin it. Mariana Apr 2017 #70
I was standing in line at CVS at about 6:30pm last night. Coventina Apr 2017 #72
Funny how they never tell us Mariana Apr 2017 #74
Exactly. Why not call it alcohol overdose? n/t Coventina Apr 2017 #75
You think the abusers will just use at regular dosages. That's cute Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #76
I don't think abusers will just use at regular dosages. Mariana Apr 2017 #84
Most prescription abusers know exactly what dose they are getting Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #90
I was prescribed hydrocodone for kidney stones last year through the local urgent Luciferous Apr 2017 #59
They've been this way for a while Bettie Apr 2017 #60
First kidney stone I went to the ER, eventually got morphine. AngryAmish Apr 2017 #69
I have been in chronic pain for over twenty years.... usedtobedemgurl Apr 2017 #61
When I had necrosis of my upper femurs, before 2 total hip replacements, MoonRiver Apr 2017 #64
Even if you have a history of substance addiction, you should get something adequate Lil Missy Apr 2017 #66
And in most states medical MJ workinclasszero Apr 2017 #73
I've had 13 surgeries MFM008 Apr 2017 #82
If you have a medical cannabis recommendation in CA, Drs aren't allowed to prescribe opiates for you MindPilot Apr 2017 #83
I can't handle opioids Dem2 Apr 2017 #85
Too many people are getting addicted to them HockeyMom Apr 2017 #86
I think you need a new dentist. Coventina Apr 2017 #88
The rabid reefer madness re:opioids (the new "war on drugs") hurts legitimate patients. People who anneboleyn Apr 2017 #93
Thank you! Would you consider making this an OP? Coventina Apr 2017 #94
Wish I could rec your post. Crunchy Frog Apr 2017 #102
suicide rate skyrockets for people with chronic pain CountAllVotes Apr 2017 #104
There's been a huge crackdown due to widespread abuse... Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #98
I had shingles a couple of years ago ellie Apr 2017 #100
Find another physician. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #101
Horrible! CountAllVotes Apr 2017 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #106
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