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Trial_By_Fire

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118. Well, Dear, my original post referred to the 'they funded Sanders to split the party'...

Fri Apr 28, 2017, 05:52 PM

Apr 2017

The poster failed to prove that point and instead wrote '17 intell agencies agreed the Trump campaign exploited Sanders supporters' and talked about the primaries.

I guess it isn't required to read the previous posts leading up to my posts.

And I did not miss any point(s).

Anyway, here are some links:

http://www.salon.com/2017/01/14/americans-overwhelmingly-support-bernie-sanders-economic-policies-so-howd-we-end-up-here/
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/03/polls-americans-socialists-bernie-sanders.html
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/senator-bernie-sanders-policy-platform-presidential-campaign
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/39858-focus-bernie-sanders-is-the-most-popular-politician-in-america
http://billmoyers.com/story/progressives-new-silent-majority/

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"Bernie Sanders Has Always Sacrificed Pragmatism For Idealism, But Now Its Hurting Democrats" [View all] Justice Apr 2017 OP

You dont want to know what I think. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #1

Then why post ncdem01 Apr 2017 #10

2012 sheshe2 Apr 2017 #11

What a rude post GP6971 Apr 2017 #19

Then why are you posting something rude? Cha Apr 2017 #49

"Rantt Staff Writer. BA, Political Science. Former Republican." QC Apr 2017 #2

No kidding. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #3

When you don't like the message, attack the messenger? kstewart33 Apr 2017 #7

Sure...works for everyone else around here. QC Apr 2017 #9

There's a heck of a lot more to it than a logo on a jersey. kstewart33 Apr 2017 #21

I'm a proud DEMOCRAT and the politicians I most admire are DEMOCRATS... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #25

I registered as a Democrat when I turned 18, in 1983, QC Apr 2017 #31

This is GOLD Jerry!! +10 000000 N/T Chevy Apr 2017 #41

Apparently, what it means to be a Democrat in 2017 . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #75

Strawman emulatorloo Apr 2017 #126

good read, thanks...nt comradebillyboy Apr 2017 #4

I agree with your analysis Gothmog Apr 2017 #5

Although his critique is cogent in some places Steven Maurer Apr 2017 #6

IMO the casual sniping, as you call it, angers and affects more people than you think. brush Apr 2017 #35

BS is always insulting the Democratic Party every Cha Apr 2017 #50

The reason for all the anti-Sanders' 'news' is because... Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #8

Favored by so many Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #14

You missed my point... Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #20

That's not what you said Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #23

I would argue that the statement is also true... Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #24

Yet Hillary adopted most of Sanders' positions in her platform Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #30

No one forced you to respond to my post! Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #32

This is an open forum Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #96

Or she already had same position Justice Apr 2017 #53

Unfortunately, far more than 1% were attacked to the messages of hate coming from the pnwmom Apr 2017 #34

well that's really two entirely different issues isn't it. One thing that people like to use JCanete Apr 2017 #44

I didn't get a kick out of anything Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #97

Nor could he get his faction to the polls lapucelle Apr 2017 #103

Hillary won almost 3 million more votes than DT. It isn't enough to have policies that the majority pnwmom Apr 2017 #15

Please see my post #20 above... Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #22

Not a Modern Day FDR...A Modern Day Huey Long Expecting Rain Apr 2017 #26

... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #29

You are welcome to your own opinion! Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #33

Umm, I'm pretty sure that the "oligarchy" is not the least bit worried about Sanders. DanTex Apr 2017 #59

They like the angry speeches. Keep us at each other's throats and a certain someone hasn't... brush Apr 2017 #83

Yes! Phoenix61 Apr 2017 #132

You missed the part where they funded him to spilt the party I guess? bettyellen Apr 2017 #94

Guess so...Can you show me where that is documented? Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #95

17 intell agencies agreed the Trump campaign exploited Sanders supporters bettyellen Apr 2017 #99

"You missed the part where they funded him to spilt the party I guess?" Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #100

You need to get out more. lapucelle Apr 2017 #104

Thanks for this... Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #111

That game doesn't work with me, dear. lapucelle Apr 2017 #117

Well, Dear, my original post referred to the 'they funded Sanders to split the party'... Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #118

I read your posts. lapucelle Apr 2017 #122

Did you go to the links in my post? Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #124

I did go to your links. lapucelle Apr 2017 #131

So then,why do YOU think the Russians and the GOP tried to help Sanders campaign? bettyellen Apr 2017 #121

First, I see you did not prove where 'they funded Sanders to split the party'... Trial_By_Fire Apr 2017 #123

The article cited said people noticed the Russian spambots spreading bullshit from Wiki and RT? LOL. bettyellen Apr 2017 #133

It's pretty ironic lapucelle Apr 2017 #134

Sorry wrong place, delete emulatorloo Apr 2017 #128

Karl Rove ran pro-Bernie ads in Iowa emulatorloo Apr 2017 #129

And Sanders is no Nancy Pelosi, either. CBHagman Apr 2017 #40

Bingo. nt kstewart33 Apr 2017 #109

Fucking bullshit. alarimer Apr 2017 #66

The Reason for all the anti-sanders OPs is because Cha Apr 2017 #47

Oh, and Baloney.. BS is not FDR.. lol Cha Apr 2017 #48

You should read about FDR. athena Apr 2017 #58

No, it's because he said he was a democrat in order to run for President. pnwmom Apr 2017 #80

FDR was a member of the 1% emulatorloo Apr 2017 #127

I thought we weren't 'lowed to say anything bad bout Bernie. Dream Girl Apr 2017 #135

K&R Jamaal510 Apr 2017 #12

Exactly. How can he bring people into the Democratic party when he refuses to do that himself? n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #13

Yeah, I thought that was a pretty good point too. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Apr 2017 #16

He kept me in the party. I was ready to bail, but his hope and criticism of the party... aikoaiko Apr 2017 #18

I'm glad that happened, but you were already in the party. He has presented himself pnwmom Apr 2017 #37

Well for every one of 'you' there are way more who leave the party because of such criticism. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #61

It is hard to bring people into the Democratic Party when close allies outside of it are demonized* Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #17

LOL NurseJackie Apr 2017 #27

With "close allies" like tis, who needs enemies? Expecting Rain Apr 2017 #28

If you believe all that, then you shouldn't appreciate "close allies' who criticize Dems as much as pnwmom Apr 2017 #39

probably more criticism for the Dems. nt Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #68

There's the truth. JudyM Apr 2017 #42

It's also hard when alleged close allies are continually demonizing the party publicly. brush Apr 2017 #46

The Democratic party has been constantly demonized by a number of people Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #54

That's my issue. Bernie loses me completely with his Justice Apr 2017 #55

or such close 'allies' demonize the party...nt Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #62

They just have to open a newspaper or watch TV to hear Bernie demonize Democratic Party Justice Apr 2017 #107

"I'd like to focus solely on the Republicans." Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #113

Well at least he hasn't dragged 44 yet...... wait never mind. N/T Chevy Apr 2017 #36

There is absolutely nothing right with this argument. JCanete Apr 2017 #38

Ooh, snap. JudyM Apr 2017 #43

seems to support article's point Justice Apr 2017 #52

You'll have to elaborate. The result has been, until he garnered popularity via social media JCanete Apr 2017 #56

I believe that he has sacrificed pragmatism for idealism, yes. DanTex Apr 2017 #60

First, the question is what could get through congress? Was that kind of legislation worth JCanete Apr 2017 #91

To your first question, yes. ACA, Dodd-Frank, Stimulus, etc. DanTex Apr 2017 #98

Well, you are naming things right off the top which as idealistic and unwilling to go for JCanete Apr 2017 #110

I agree, and I said so in my last post. Bernie has been as a reliable senate vote. DanTex Apr 2017 #142

primarying isn't talking about 3rd parties, now is it? That is working within the party, and JCanete Apr 2017 #143

Based on the past election...he should consider selling the 'D'. nt. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #63

the past election, in which we are reminded Clinton got 3 million more votes than trump, and that JCanete Apr 2017 #88

There were enough geen and other such voters to have changed the outcome...lets Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #89

remember that every good progressive policy we have is because of people of all progressive JCanete Apr 2017 #92

Psst. Wrong narrative. n/t Orsino Apr 2017 #73

Yeah he is a weird one to supposely be bringing Peeps Cha Apr 2017 #45

Just one question: Do you have to be a Dem Party member to post on DU? YOHABLO Apr 2017 #51

Read TOS we are not supposed to interfere with governance of this site. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #64

Bernie got me politically involved PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #57

In a word no. I believe public criticism drives people from the party. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #67

Ya we differ on that. I see it as honesty PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #69

Sorry...I see no benefit from making people think the Democratic party sucks. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #70

I don't see it as such and that honesty got me to vote Dem PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #71

Really...you vote for a party that someone says sucks...I am sorry I don't believe that. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #79

Where has Bernie said the party sucks? Link please? PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #81

I never said that nor would I...I said do you think people will vote for Democrats Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #85

I never said that nor would I...I said do you think people will vote for Democrats Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #86

If that's the case, why is the most popular politician? PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #87

He is popular in his state...not sure about the most popular ...maybe. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #90

Check this out PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #93

So I googled that scipan Apr 2017 #119

Think about this. The repugs control every branch of government. They keep their criticism of... brush Apr 2017 #72

And therein lies our differences PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #74

Did you miss the whole point? Critique all you want but keep it in-house, maybe join the party... brush Apr 2017 #77

I do disagree PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #78

So sowing discord among Dems publicly is a good thing to you? brush Apr 2017 #82

Bernie is sowing discord? Huh? PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #116

Keep it in-house. brush Apr 2017 #137

what about threads like this? scipan Apr 2017 #120

Threads like this start because of frustration over a certain someone continually bashing the party brush Apr 2017 #136

Are you registered with the Independent Party lapucelle Apr 2017 #105

Independent Party? PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #141

Infuriating and heartbreaking. It DOES defy all logic... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #65

Bernie didn't go to tRump's Senate meeting photo-op SHRED Apr 2017 #76

"Sanders: Trump on right track with North Korea" emulatorloo Apr 2017 #130

He is an independent who votes Democratic. So, he's trying to get independents to vote D too. yodermon Apr 2017 #84

You don't get independents to vote for a party that you attack. kstewart33 Apr 2017 #112

he needs to shit or get off the pot... samnsara Apr 2017 #101

What is unpragmatic about championing policies the majority of the country supports? killbotfactory Apr 2017 #102

+1 bagelsforbreakfast Apr 2017 #106

Because its not true Justice Apr 2017 #108

Democrats are not pretending everything is great; lapucelle Apr 2017 #115

Nah, BS championed an "Aggressively Anti-Choice" candidate Cha Apr 2017 #138

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2017 #139

KICK Cha Apr 2017 #140

What defies logic to me is why anybody discusses Bernie at all. mikehiggins Apr 2017 #114

It's only "hurting" certain kinds of Democrats -- Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2017 #125

I have not a bit of regret for voting for Sanders. David__77 Apr 2017 #144