after 300 years a woman wins a parties nomination and loses the EC but wins the popular vote

[Squinch]

50. I wasn't saying their beliefs were bullshit. I was saying their argument against choice

and against a vote for the Democrats was bullshit, even in the context of their beliefs when those beliefs are sincerely held.

If they really believe, they will STILL vote for the Democrat, as I explained. If it is an issue of the sanctity of life, when they do the math even if they believe that abortion is murder, Republicans will still come out the losers. Republicans are the ones who create all our endless wars and all the policies that will lead to the earth becoming uninhabitable. They kill people through their policies on medicine, on poverty, on climate, on guns, on food availability, on regulation of natural resources, on food and medicine safety. Republicans show in EVERY one of their policies that they have not respect for the sanctity of life. EVERY ONE of their policies kills people. If it is a matter of who is better on the sanctity of life, Democrats win on balance even if you believe the church's teachings on abortion.

If they DON'T really believe what they say they believe - and I saw evidence that many did not when many of my catholic high school and college friends quickly aborted their pregnancies, and many of those abortions were paid for by their pillar-of-the-church parents - then they should not be fighting to prevent others from availing themselves of a service that they themselves use in large numbers.

And I suspect you will be waiting for a long time for that onslaught of haters.